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To: Notary Sojac

The idea that you will save any of them by giving up the republic’s most important principles, principles that are supposed to protect ALL, is a delusion.


15 posted on 11/20/2011 5:58:24 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Nutritionally, you are what you eat. Politically, you are what you endorse.)
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“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men...”

— The Declaration of Independence

“We the People of the United States, in Order to...establish Justice...and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

— The Preamble, or Statement of Purpose, of the United States Constitution

“No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law.”

— The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution

“No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

— The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution


16 posted on 11/20/2011 6:04:00 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Nutritionally, you are what you eat. Politically, you are what you endorse.)
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To: EternalVigilance

EV, you know that we have fought some of the same battles together in the past.

I simply want to point out again that the system is interpreting the law in such a way that it allows the killing of the unborn.

I agree it is an illegitimate interpretation, but that does not change the fact that thousands are being killed daily.

What are the solutions to a legal system and supreme court grossly in error.

1. Change the system.

2. REvolution.

I prefer #1, so it will be gradual. Any lives I can save in the meantime will be a good thing.

As in “Schindler’s List”, Mr. Schindler didn’t have the means to single-handedly take down the Nazis, but he was able to save one Jew at a time.

This is America’s holocaust.


21 posted on 11/20/2011 6:15:11 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: EternalVigilance
giving up the republic’s most important principles, principles that are supposed to protect ALL

This is the part that puzzles me, EV. How is (1)fighting to uphold those principles AND (2) simultaneously fighting to save every life you can in the meantime "giving up..principles"?

It seems to me that NOT fighting to save every life possible IS giving up those principles.

The reality is that the courts have decided those principles are NOT in our law when it comes to the unborn. It is necessary to fight to have that changed.

However, not fighting to save lives is definitely ignoring those principles.

Were station leaders on the underground railroad prior to the Civil War giving up on the principle of "all men are created equal" when they helped an escaped slave on his way to safety in the north or in Canada?

I would say they could fight to (1) abolish slavery per the principle of equality, and (2) help slaves escape to freedom. The second confirmed the first....that they really believed in the principle.

Not to fight now for every single life calls into question whether that person really believes in the principle.

88 posted on 11/21/2011 5:40:08 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: EternalVigilance
When Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation, freeing the slaves in the Confederate states while allowing those in the Union states and the territories to remain in bondage,

(1) was he "giving up the republic's most important principles"??

(2) did that action in any way prevent or impeded the adoption of the thirteenth amendment?

89 posted on 11/21/2011 6:09:50 AM PST by Notary Sojac
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