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To: Usagi_yo
"They don’t have to nationalize the medical profession. It would be done by nationalizing the Insurance industry. Though I believe I am a strong conservative/libertarian, I do believe that this is the way it should be done."

Are the "private" insurance companies allowed to have profits? Shareholders? How about we try something radical, like making people pay for their own health care with their own dollars? Price shop for the best care at the best price?

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The motives for nationalization are political as well as economic. It is a central theme of certain fascist, economic nationalist, populist and/or national liberation policies that industry should be owned by the state on behalf of the citizenry to allow for consolidation of resources and central planning or control for the purposes of economic development.

Nationalization was one of the major strategies advocated by socialists for transitioning to socialism. Socialist perspectives that favor nationalization are typically called state socialism. The goals of nationalization in this context were to dispossess large capitalists and redirect the profits from them to the public purse, as a precursor to the long-term goals of the establishment of worker-management and reorganizing production toward use.

46 posted on 11/20/2011 6:48:37 AM PST by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: listenhillary
How about we try something radical, like making people pay for their own health care with their own dollars? Price shop for the best care at the best price? Nationalizing, providing then taxing fits that description pretty good. Insurance is *inherently* a socialistic system albeit run by private enterprise. Besides, this is basicaly done already with medicare for those over 65. Most people 15+ years from 65 don't realize that once you turn 65, your health insurance is provided by the government. People are already taxed for this 15% SSI, 5% Medicare (1/2 from employeer, half from employee). The money is just raided and reallocated and borrowed -- which goes to the part of your quote of mine that you left out. That its the optimum solution, I just don't believe that it can be done cleanly without "special interest" clauses bought from corrupt politicians. It's gotta be a go or no-go plan. Rejected in its entirety or accepted in its entirety.
60 posted on 11/20/2011 8:58:40 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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