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To: Maelstorm
Kudos for a brilliant, thoughtful, AND well written analysis. Pretty much mirrors my own thoughts. I've been receptive to Cain since he first announced. Now, like you, I have some doubts.

Here's another thought. Prior all this Cain "stuff" ( for lack of a better word) there was considerable speculation about a possible GOP ticket...the idea ofCain/Gingrich was widely embraced. Now, because of all these issues, were Newt, Perry, or Mitt to win the nomination, I don't think that any of them would pick Cain as a VP, because it would resurrect all the questions about Cain's readiness ( which, after all, is the prime funcion of the VP) and the nominee and the campaign would start off behind the 8-ball, with questions about their judgement.

So, we should ask..can a person who won't be considered for the VP spot continue to run for the top slot?

26 posted on 11/19/2011 9:33:10 AM PST by ken5050
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To: ken5050
We are going to make Cain the nominee here in South Carolina on Jan 21st 2012 and unlike either IA or NH we have picked them all since 1980.

Hate on him all you want but we Southern conservatives take care of our own.

31 posted on 11/19/2011 9:42:26 AM PST by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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To: ken5050

Thanks. That is why it is critical that Cain really get this under control while he still has a chance. Right now I and others support him because I know who he is but he needs to prove who he is to the electorate. I want him to come back because he has an amazing communication talent and an amazing story when he unleashes it but it is clear that the campaign is taking its toll and it won’t get better. Nothing is more disappointing than promise wasted. The unfortunate irony is that he handled the sex harassment stuff fairly well even given the chaos the problem is it weakened him with ‘blood in the water’ so to speak and the sharks are now hitting him. That he is still hanging on is testament to what he could be but running for president isn’t a race about trying hard. He has to be in it to win it and that means getting organized. I figure he has till the end of November to get things together going into Iowa. Also If I were him I’d put together a big feel good campaign pre-Christmas event. Maybe invite the other candidates even to a non debate venue for just a good time.

Hey but that is how I’d do it. You leverage your strengths and when your strength is going directly to the people you need to focus on that like a laser. Cain needs to show he is bigger than the Cain caricature before it is cast in stone and his chance is lost. It would be a pity because he has survived far too much adversity and worked far too hard to find himself turned into an object of ridicule.


35 posted on 11/19/2011 9:48:46 AM PST by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: ken5050
So, we should ask..can a person who won't be considered for the VP spot continue to run for the top slot?

No. Iwas one of those who thought perhaps a Cain/Newt team might work, but I cannot do so now. As the primary moves along Cain continues to struggle with the basics to formulate responses of substance. He doesn't have to know details but he should have more than just generic responses and he's not giving us that. So No, I would not want Cain as VP or Pres. at this time....he's just not up for the job where he needs to be and he still has far to go.

48 posted on 11/19/2011 11:06:10 AM PST by caww
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