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Keep Food Reserves Safe In A Crisis
Wichita Observer ^ | 10/14/11 | Peggy Layton

Posted on 11/14/2011 5:03:54 PM PST by Kartographer

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To: Kartographer

Don’t bother storing survival food. Stock up on ammo and keep track of the locations in the neighborhood where Mormons live.


21 posted on 11/14/2011 6:24:36 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been suspended or banned.)
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To: KantianBurke

Ugh...worst movie ever. What a stinker. I wish I had those 111 minutes back.


22 posted on 11/14/2011 6:27:37 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Cooking tip for old beans.

They can stay tough even with long cooking.

Soak them overnight.

Rinse and then pressure can.

Fill the jars about 3/4 full..The rest with water.

The combination of high temp and pressure will make them tender.


23 posted on 11/14/2011 6:27:39 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: Kartographer

Get real MRE’s and store in a cool room. www.longlifefood.com is a great source.

They’re as compact as you can get and will indeed last a solid 10-12 years. Taste starts going after 5-6, but edible for over 12. They cost more than other options but last far longer and the space concerns are far less.


24 posted on 11/14/2011 6:33:40 PM PST by Tolaei1
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To: cherry
dry goods...more beans, more pasta, barley etc....rice...they seem to store alot more compactly...

I store 5lb bags of rice in vac sealed Mylar and then put them in 5 gallon buckets...the ones with the rubber o-ring. You can fit 5 of them per bucket. They stack nice, are mouse and moisture proof (mostly) and are fairly compact for what they hold.

I do the same for beans, lentils and dried peas and such...except in 1lb. bags.

25 posted on 11/14/2011 6:36:15 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Thanks


26 posted on 11/14/2011 6:41:27 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (WE ARE AMERICA! DONATE TO FR MORE!)
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27 posted on 11/14/2011 6:55:25 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: cherry

Cherry, you’re on the right track. Dry goods (ingredients) can be used to make a multitude of recipes while there’s only so much you can do with a can of soup or ravioli. Dry goods will have a much longer shelf life.

And, storing food in multiple locations in your home isn’t a bad thing. If someone were to try and steal your food, it would take a lot longer to track it all down, if they even could.


28 posted on 11/14/2011 7:09:44 PM PST by ChocChipCookie
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To: Jeff Chandler

I hope you are joking, but now days who knows. So are you posting from your towns OWS protest or what?


29 posted on 11/14/2011 7:59:31 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: MoochPooch
No I don't think you are naive. This is from my Preparedness Manual. By the way I wrote it myself.

Our Christian Duty to our Fellow Man

For many Christians their responsibilities to their fellow men weight heavy in their minds and the vision of a friend or neighbor coming to them for help with a staving child is a nightmare that they fear.

I have discussed this subject at length with fellow ‗preppers‘ on various online preparedness groups that I frequent to and I have come to the conclusion that there is no ‗one size fits all‘ answer. For almost every scripture one quotes as to it being our Christian duty to do all we can to help our fellow man, one may quote another that distains the slothful and the ill-prepared.

In the end I believe it is up to each of us and the circumstances as to what and how much action we take. For a childless couple to give a neighbor a couple cans of powdered milk during a blizzard is not the same as a couple with children doing the same thing after an EMP attack. To me the order of things should be God, my family and then my fellow man. I should never do anything that jeopardizes the relationship that come before.

As for me to ease my conscience and hopefully meet my duty as a Christian my own plan is to put away an extra 10% of preps‘ to use as tithe towards helping my fellows in an emergency. To me by setting aside that which God ask in tribute and then distribute it to those in need I have meet God‘s covenants and yet have not place my family in need or want. I will add a warning to this solution and that is for you to be careful as to how you distribute this aid. In these days in which so many seem to deem that it is their ‗right‘ to have their needs provided to them by others, the knowledge that you have prepared and have stores of food and goods could quickly cause others to ‗demand‘ that you share.

When possible I urge you go through a trusted third-party to donate your extra stocks, your church or an organization such as the Salvation Army are two good choices. But try to remain anonymous with your assistance, for desperate times drive many to desperate deeds. There is a quote from one of my all time favorite TV shows Deep Space Nine which explains this so very well:

Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon."
Quark from: Star Trek Deep Space Nine, Episode: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)" (1998)

Or as 1 Timothy 5:8 says:
Anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

You should never commit an act of charity that in turns places your family‘s safety in jeopardy.

JR Cook 2/23/2010
30 posted on 11/14/2011 8:06:38 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Black clouds cover the horizon, the lightening is flashing and there is the distant sound of thunder! The storm flags are going up, will you heed them?

I am very aware that if it’s the great end that there is nothing I can do to stop or change it, but history is full of instances and times when man or nature have caused such a calamity that people have cried out and begged God to end it all.

The bible has many verse such as this:

A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

This verse and others are there for a reason and I urge all to take heed of them, because we are clearly on the edge. Everyday there is a new story about the ‘Yutes’ who grow more restless everyday and when you add the fact that because of the economy people are already on edge it won’t take much to set things off.

Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:

“Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)
Quark: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.

Today we have ‘yutes’ who roam our streets who are with out morals, without respect for law or life itself. They will look are you with the same ‘doll eyes’ a shark does before he eats you and they will feel no more compassion than the shark does.

That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the ‘yutes’. On the other hand the ‘yutes’ won’t think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it.

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

If you like to read more about what SHTF in Bosnia was like take a look at this post on Bosnia War Survivor Selco’s Blog at:

http://shtfschool.com/

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.”

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”


31 posted on 11/14/2011 8:07:52 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Yeah, I’m joking, but the joke depends upon people knowing that Mormoms are encouraged to keep a year’s supply of food stocked up.


32 posted on 11/14/2011 8:10:48 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been suspended or banned.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Don’t know about 38 years (!), but if you have some beans that simply won’t soften, that means that they are too old. However: they can be ground in a food mill and the resultant cracked or ground *meal* can then be added to soups and gravies, used as a thickener or even as an *instant* soup, by themselves. I have seen recipes for adding this to baked goods, too. It may take a couple of passes thru the mill to obtain something fine enough to be called flour instead of meal.

I believe you need a stainless steel mill, not stone, to accomplish this successfully without excessive wear on the mill.

As for room, I have read about people taking the wall board off and putting shelving between the studs for extra storage space. I think you would then want to add a hinged door over that space.


33 posted on 11/14/2011 9:13:14 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

Grinding would work. Thanks


34 posted on 11/15/2011 6:26:04 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (WE ARE AMERICA! DONATE TO FR MORE!)
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To: cherry
I don't want it all over the house...I want it in one place but its very difficult to get everything that I want organized.

So let's say you put it all in one place and something happens to that portion of the house. Now you've lost everything. Better to spread it around the house.

35 posted on 11/15/2011 2:28:59 PM PST by Veggie Todd (C'mon, turn this thing around RIGHT NOW! Edward Van Halen)
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To: davius

Attics, garage corners, closet corners all work well.
And if you don’t have the space, look at what you can sell to raise money and make space.


36 posted on 11/15/2011 6:22:45 PM PST by tbw2
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To: CondorFlight

Sounds like the LDS Bishop’s storehouse concept. The problem is finding a safe communal location, where only members can access it.


37 posted on 11/15/2011 6:25:33 PM PST by tbw2
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To: TASMANIANRED

When you soak your beans overnight be sure to add a bit of baking soda. It reduces the gas that usually accompanies beans.

Also, think about stockpiling some herbs. Dried herbs can’t compare to fresh herbs but when you’re trying to survive even dried herbs will be a treat.


38 posted on 11/15/2011 6:34:41 PM PST by ladyjane
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