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To: MD Expat in PA
#1...the bottom line of my post is to really separate Penn State supporters into two camps:

(a) Those who are repentant of the "culture of cover up" that the Attorney General's statement mentions -- even if they had no direct tie to any overt cover up...

(b) And those who don't think Paterno should have been fired at all...no matter how and when he was told. These, I would say, continue to be part of the "cultural" problem of lack of accountability.

Btw, every major Old Testament prophet engaged in identificational repentance...asking God for forgiveness of sins that Israel committed -- but that they themselves personally were not guilty for...they identified with the sins of their people and pleaded with God to turn His people around.

[I agree with what you said re: the common objection in State College...Paterno being told by the BOT 10:00 at night over the phone]

So the "bottom line" is that you can't tell me there are not a sizeable # in that (b) category.

It should also be mentioned that several thousand PSU students last night held a candle light vigil for the victims in this case and for all victims of child abuse.

I have a Q re: this: I have seen in the Central PA media and one place elsewhere comments from Penn State students who said that their entire student body should not be judged by what perhaps 2-3% of their student population engaged in Wednesday night re: the riot.

IOW don't judge the 100% by the 2-3% Right?

The Media says that "several thousand" students & alumni were @ this vigil Friday night. Considering that a # of these were alumni (+ other members of the community), if we say that up to 2,000 were actual students, then that's 5% of the student body (40,000).

Now tell me: If 5% of the student body was at the vigil, why are you asking us to judge the 100% by the 5%? Especially in light of Penn State students telling us NOT to judge the 100% by the 3%?

Please convince me as to why we should consider the vigil "more representative" of the Penn State student body than the riot on Wednesday night?

159 posted on 11/12/2011 4:09:34 AM PST by Colofornian (IÂ’ve been amazed at some of the JoPologists and McScuses that have been surfacing)
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To: Colofornian

So disappointed to see so many Freepers defending Paterno. Ths story has captivated my wife and I. We are HUGE college football fans, I am an attorney and she is a child therapist. If you’ve read all the facts and articles, and know how PSU and college football operate, there is no way you can gave Paterno a pass on this and would not demand his termination.

And BTW, I have friends in academia close to this situation. They said that all but two of Sandusky’s victims are black. Wait until the media gets a hold of that info.


160 posted on 11/12/2011 4:21:45 AM PST by Treeless Branch
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To: Colofornian
Now tell me: If 5% of the student body was at the vigil, why are you asking us to judge the 100% by the 5%? Especially in light of Penn State students telling us NOT to judge the 100% by the 3%?

Please convince me as to why we should consider the vigil "more representative" of the Penn State student body than the riot on Wednesday night?

Please go back and read my post again. I’m not saying the entire student body should be judged by the either the small percentage of rioters nor by the number of kids who came to the vigil. I was trying say that the 35% in the poll you quoted is not necessarily supporting pedophilia or the cover up of that crime as you inferred.

161 posted on 11/12/2011 4:38:17 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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