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To: tomkat

Been thinking about Paterno. There is no way he could not have known what was going on after the 1998 incident when Sandusky “retired” with emeritus status. I include the very great possibility that Sandusky was pimping the kids to big PSU donars. Maybe even to the big cahuna himself in Old Main.

Sandusky used Penn State football facilities for his foundation and abusing the kids the foundation was supposed to be helping.

Paterno must have bumped into Sandusky occasionally and Sandusky was attending PSU regualar season and bowl games with young boys.

A moral adult person would question the behavior. Given what Paterno knew about Sandusky the bells should have been ringing. Especially in light of what appears to be an epidemic of child abuse in America and the world today.

Joe is up to his eyeballs in this scandal and should be charged as an accessory.

I’m confident Joe and all those who’ve participated in and enabled Sandusky’s perversion are not sleeping well these days. Without a doubt Sandusky will rat them all out for leniency. He’s the key to identifying all the victims, who knew about his activities and those to whom he may have pimped out boys. In the Grand Jury report Sandusky’s wife is said to have tried to contact one of the boy’s families—prior to the grand jury convening. Sandusky was trying to do the same. It appears she may be complicit in this as well. The Sanduskys had no biological children. They adopted. I wonder if they were abused as well.

It just gets dirtier and dirtier.


324 posted on 11/13/2011 5:41:24 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: dools0007world
Been thinking about Paterno. There is no way he could not have known what was going on after the 1998 incident when Sandusky “retired” with emeritus status. I include the very great possibility that Sandusky was pimping the kids to big PSU donars. Maybe even to the big cahuna himself in Old Main.

Bingo! I would not doubt that Barny Frank partook of boys.

Sandusky used Penn State football facilities for his foundation and abusing the kids the foundation was supposed to be helping

This enterprise was financed by donors and if the children were placed by the Courts,the Child Protective Services and Family Courts were probably complicant also, because, in this day and age, nothing remains secret for long. And they would have been at least a sniff of what was happening.

Paterno must have bumped into Sandusky occasionally and Sandusky was attending PSU regualar season and bowl games with young boys.

As long as they were associated and the closeness of thessociation, common sense would tell one that Paterno at least had an inkling that something was not kosher.

Paterno must have bumped into Sandusky occasionally and Sandusky was attending PSU regualar season and bowl games with young boys.

AMEN!

I’m confident Joe and all those who’ve participated in and enabled Sandusky’s perversion are not sleeping well these days. Without a doubt Sandusky will rat them all out for leniency. He’s the key to identifying all the victims, who knew about his activities and those to whom he may have pimped out boys.

I would normally say to look for Sandusky to suffer the same fate as the D.D.But in today's moral climate of "tolerance" for deviant acts, particular sex acts, he will probably idolized.In the Grand Jury report Sandusky’s wife is said to have tried to contact one of the boy’s families—prior to the grand jury convening. Sandusky was trying to do the same. It appears she may be complicit in this as well.

One cannot be as close as a man and wife, particularly the years they were married, and hide secrets of this enormancy from each other. Again, common sense would tell one that she knew.And for reasons known only to her, she chose, through her silence, to become part of it.

The Sanduskys had no biological children. They adopted. I wonder if they were abused as well.

That does not excuse their conduct. However, they may not thought they did anything wrong. After all, they probably did not read the Bible,or practice the 10 Commandants. And godness knows, they have a lot of support from the future leaders of this Nation, a/k/a college students and alumni.

325 posted on 11/13/2011 6:14:49 AM PST by sport
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To: dools0007world
I have to admit to still being quite stunned over this whole fiasco. Though in many ways tending to cynicism after 56yrs on this earth, I had held Joe in high regard, having seen the program's apparent integrity holding up well over the years.

This whole thing has been the very literal and figurative definition of a clusterf**k, and the vast bulk of the facts will take months to surface. And though there's been no doubt in my mind from day one as to the world-class creepiness of that Spanier slug (on several levels), the PSU football program has always seemed to be about as good as it gets in big-time college athletics.

It does, in retrospect, strain credulity to imagine that all this went on for so long without Joe's having had at least some inkling of trouble. But having said that, and with the exception of the degenerate Sandusky himself, I'm not rushing to judgement re all the peripheral actors until all the facts come to light.

Sue Paterno must be devastated about this criminal tragedy. And the poor kids/players, most/all of whom surely knew nothing about the perversions going on around them, will undeservedly carry the stigma of it all for a very long time, if not for the rest of their lives.

It all still seems somehow unreal to me. I watched or listened to most of their games when I had the chance, but never went to one even while a student there (got that craziness out of my system many years ago at the U of Colorado ;-)

With the downward plunge of your country since the communists conned their way into power in '08, this is a straw that seems almost too much for the ol' camel to bear.

I'll also admit to having entertained the question, while driving to the airport in Scranton yesterday afternoon, whether the huge donations to the school, specifically those funding the new wing of Pattee (the library, for those unfamiliar), were motivated by true philanthropy or residual guilt ?

And that's the poison of this that will live on long after the guilty have been dealt with by the courts and/or the NCAA.

Maybe my vision is being misted by the rose-colored perspective of near twenty years' absence, but I can only hope that the good people at PSU - and there tens of thousands of them ! - can eventually erase this hideous, shameful stain and earn back it's place as one of the leading institutions of higher learning in our nation.

327 posted on 11/13/2011 8:14:35 AM PST by tomkat (para bellum)
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