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To: muawiyah
Earth comes equipped with copper and nickel in certain proportions of stable isotopes.
Anyone following this discussion most likely understands that. And, they most likely understand that there is a Weak Force.

It's totally irrelevant to analyzing Rossi's E-Cat. If it does work, we can then figure out how it works. But we haven't reached the point where we know that it does work.

The fact that Rossi's sample contained no signs of any nuclear reaction (based on Strong or Weak Force) is suspicious. Especially when Miley is reporting that their LENR experiments (Slide Show) are producing 39 isotopes that do not match natural ratios.

Faking 39 changes to natural isotope ratios would be very difficult (and very expensive). It is very strong evidence that some unexplained nuclear process is going on.

Rossi's sample, with 0 changes to natural isotope ratios, suggests that there is no nuclear (Strong or Weak) process going on. While faking Miley's results would be difficult and expensive, faking Rossi's results would be cheap and easy.

44 posted on 11/10/2011 2:34:48 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
You are assuming entirely too much. And then you immediately missed the point. There are currently FEW pieces of knowledge that tell us what are even signs of the Weak Force at work.

This is one body of knowledge where I am pretty sure you could totally exhaust 100% of everything meaningful, including all doctoral theses, and controlled experiments, in probably 2 weeks reading ~

When it comes to Electro-Weak Force materials there's actually a bit more since folks did experiments to back up the unified theory regarding those two forces.

The only really major piece of science where we are more ignant appears to be WHAT'S AT THE VERY MIDDLE OF THE EARTH.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-11/esrf-etl110911.php should help us fill that gap.

The fellows with the 29 different isotopes of this and that might find work soon interpreting these rusults into something meaningful. Or, maybe there'll be a decided absence of productions of the strong nuclear force at work and Focardi will get the job.

46 posted on 11/10/2011 2:54:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Johnny B.

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MileyGHonthereact.pdf ~ one of Miley’s reports. He notes NO D-D fusion, but instead reports “weak fission”. Hmm. But that is a ONE STAGE operation. Focardi and Rossi claim a TWO STAGE operation ~ and what we have in Miley is a pretty good explanation for what we find in Stage Two. I get out there a couple of times a year. in fact, this next trip we’ll go look at a town in the area that I think was laid out and occupied by the spanish BEFORE 1598. We can stop by Miley’s shop and see if we can get his signature on a copy of one of his articles and have some pictures taken.


48 posted on 11/10/2011 3:04:04 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Johnny B.

Johnny, keep in mind the Rossi reactants are very different from Miley’s. Rossi claims to use only a nickel powder H and some sort of electromagnetic radiation. Miley is studying thin-film electrodes with Pd and loaded deuterium.

Another curiosity is chem reaction produces that kind of heat for 5 hours in finite space? Weapons grade thermite? If it is a trick, it fooled Navy, Dr. Sven Kullander, Chair Energy Committee, Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences and dozens of other physicists.

Still not as good as global warming.


81 posted on 11/10/2011 7:13:41 PM PST by Awnest (Really... FUN!)
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