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To: South40
I don’t want him to be the Republican nominee

Do you want a nominee that will lose the general? Will that satisfy people like you? I've seen this before from politically unsophisticated people (legions on this site). I know a lot of people who are involved at upper levels of politics (Republicans, Democrats, and Independants) and they all say Cain will lose the general. If Republicans are foolish enough to nominate him (and I believe there's a chance of this), then the press will unload on him in a way in manner that will make your head spin. Count on it. The movers and shakers in the Republican Party are NOT as stupid as many posting on this site believe. They understand electoral politics. Just remember New York, California, Texas, Florida, New Jersey, Massachusetts and Illinois have just almost enough electoral votes to win. California, Massachusetts, New Jersey and New York are a lost cause as is Illinois. Does Cain help and hurt in the swing state? Sometime some of you posters ought to think about. Cain might help win a few more votes in states that Republicans are gonna win anyway, but does he help in the swing states that will determine the election? The movers and shakers don't think so. Just some food for thought.
68 posted on 11/09/2011 8:20:05 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: truthguy
Good gracious, you need to wake up and smell what you're shoveling.

Do you want a nominee that will lose the general?

Nobody wants your stammering imbecile from Texas, so no.

I know a lot of people who are involved at upper levels of politics (Republicans, Democrats, and Independants) and they all say Cain will lose the general.

The people you know are all morons. Given your posts here, that isn't surprising.

then the press will unload on him in a way in manner that will make your head spin. Count on it.

Really? And they'll just let Rick 'Rumors Say He's Gay' Perry just waltz into the White House, right?

The movers and shakers in the Republican Party are NOT as stupid as many posting on this site believe.

That's true. People here give them too much credit. They're a lot dumber than people here realize.

Does Cain help and hurt in the swing state?

Does Perry? I'm sure he's polling well with the 'special needs' crowd, because now they know for sure that he's one of them, but I don't think that voting block can move a whole lot of states.

The movers and shakers don't think so.

The 'movers and shakers' don't think. Period.

Just some food for thought.

Lord, I hope not. Any thought trying to sustain itself on this drivel you seem to think passes for analysis will die of starvation.

71 posted on 11/09/2011 8:30:42 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in.)
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To: truthguy
Politically unsophisticated people? lol!

You have no idea who you are talking to nor do you have any clue what my background is regarding politics.

You political infants crack me up.

73 posted on 11/09/2011 8:40:05 PM PST by South40 (To Tear Down Herman Cain is to aid Mitt Romney & the Marxist Kenyan)
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To: truthguy
I know a lot of people who are involved at upper levels of politics (Republicans, Democrats, and Independants) and they all say Cain will lose the general.

Yes, most of them do say that. They also said it about Palin. They will say that about ANY CONSERVATIVE, period.

Thank goodness, we voters have stopped listening to them.

Your vaunted "movers and shakers" can KMA.

87 posted on 11/09/2011 9:38:57 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: truthguy
If Republicans are foolish enough to nominate [Cain] (and I believe there's a chance of this), then the press will unload on him in a way in manner that will make your head spin.

As opposed to any other nominee, whom they will let slide?

Nonsense. Regardless of who the GOP nominee is, they will be relentlessly attacked and undermined by the lamestream media, all the better to re-elect their beloved Marxist savior.

104 posted on 11/09/2011 10:34:28 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: truthguy; South40

> Do you want a nominee that will lose the general? Will that satisfy people like you? I’ve seen this before from politically unsophisticated people (legions on this site).

Whoah, there, pal, let’s not fling insults around at your FRiends.

> Cain might help win a few more votes in states that Republicans are gonna win anyway, but does he help in the swing states that will determine the election? The movers and shakers don’t think so.

You have some points about electoral politics and the preferences of the establishment GOP. But here are some other things to consider.

1. A Romney presidency is likely to be more destructive to the country than a Zer0 2nd term. Now hang on before you scream at me. Mittens is nearly as liberal as Zer0 but has the patina of an (R) after his name. He talks a pretty game now for the primaries but you know that he’s gonna swing WAY left if he’s elected president. And all the united opposition you see now from the GOP Congress will melt away once “one of our own” is calling the shots. Say hello to more Obamneycare, amnesty for illegals and more taxes... and more abominable legislation that wouldn’t have a PRAYER if Zer0 was in office.

2. Cain is running a smart, unconventional campaign. He’s thinking like a CEO and outside the Beltway. The “conventional wisdom” has counted him out almost a dozen times and he’s sprung back. Besides, with all the dirt getting flung at him now, they’re basically destroying those issues for the general election.

3. The “movers and shakers” have had it wrong before. Do you remember McCain, and backing “moderates” like Dede Scozzafava?


135 posted on 11/10/2011 7:55:25 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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