This Ohioan is starting to look for the EXIT signs.
'Ohio will have a referendum on whether to approve or reject Senate Bill 5, which was passed earlier this year, and limits collective bargaining rights for public employees. If the election was today, would you vote to approve or reject Senate Bill 5?'
You are simply going to get a lot of people against 'limiting' collective bargaining rights because it sounds ominous when framed like that. Hopefully, there is enough awareness advertisements around Ohio, especially in conservative areas to get people to the polls and understand that this is a nominal change to the collective bargaining system.
OK. Give the unions all the goodies. Then raise Ohioians taxes to pay for it. Idiots.
If they vote it down than they can raise their taxes to support it....there will be no fed bailout. Stupidity is as stupidity does!!!
If Ohio voters are stupid enough to vote to pay government employees twice as much as they make in the private sector, plus financing their free health insurance and outrageously cushy retirement system, then let Ohio go broke.
Just don’t cone begging for help from voters in sane states who have much better sense than to believe that Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy will provide a bailout for profligate states.. We can see how the greedy government employees’ demands worked out in Greece.
I always check the demographics. As usual, they lean Dem. Here are the numbers from PPP
Q9 If you are a Democrat, press 1. If a Republican,
press 2. If you are an independent or identify
with another party, press 3.
Democrat ........................................................ 41%
Republican...................................................... 35%
Independent/Other..........................................24%
I advise Kasich to push a slightly modified version of the bill in the next session. A few changes should make the bill more palatable for most voters. Let the labor cartels kick and scream more.
I find it to be sad how this is seen as an all or nothing. Am I missing something here?
Does Ohio have a Republican Governor? Both chambers of the state legislature are Republican majorities?
So, SB5 passes. Go back to the drawing board, and do it as Kasich should have done in the first place. A little at a time, bite size pieces that votes can understand easily and the effects will be harder to obfuscate.
Or we could just say we’re all gonna die, Ohio is Greece and be done with it?
I don't know what to make of this. I do think SB5 is viewed as an overreach, and probably should have been done one piece at a time. That said, I really cannot fathom why Kasich is so unpopular, so fast. Is it the addiction Ohioans have to their precious unions or what?
The Buckeye State is fast becoming the Poster Child for why Direct Democracy is a bad idea.
As i always say, we speak of the death of the mainstream media at our peril.
People get the government they deserve.
That freedom thing is just a bit too frightening for some people.
Remember, Ohio... by voting down SB 5, you’re opting for economy-killing deficits, followed by massive layoffs.
But you’ll make that big statement in support of your precious public-sector unions, won’t you?
That freedom thing is just a bit too frightening for some people.
Remember, Ohio... by voting down SB 5, you’re opting for economy-killing deficits, followed by massive layoffs.
But you’ll make that big statement in support of your precious public-sector unions, won’t you?
Here the guy has tried to deliver what voters called for back in 2010, and they turn against him. No wonder so many good people don't want to run for public office, what with the psychotic nature of the American electorate. Live up to your campaign promises and it will cost you.
The airwaves have been bombarded here with Vote No On Issue 2 ads. They have trotted out firefighters, first responders, nurses, teachers, senior citizens, heck even John Glenn got in on it. They have used scare tactics, heart wrenching stories about firefighters saving children, teacher’s and nurses’s sob stories 24-7 for TWO SOLID MONTHS. How many policemen, firefighters and teachers could have been supported by the money that unions spent on all of these ads?
I and a lot of others I know are voting Yes, but I fear the sheeple have been moved by the unrelenting media assault.
Up here in dying New York State, former union members still swear by them. I swear at them, but I think I'm in the minority.