Good post Bray, though I think you expect too much. You expect the pub candidates to take a stand? Beginning with, they’re pubs! Moving on to the obvious....they are up against Cain, he’s their competition. It’ll snow in hell before what you want happens. But it’s nice to dream.
Got a few moments before church, thus some thoughts. First, the Lamestream is a mess at times but for one week now we’ve heard about Cain’s transgressions but as of yet, not one female has come forward, not one legal document has been produced. It looks to me like Cain struggled to provide an explanation but beyond that absolutely no participants in any of this nonsense have stepped forward save some bogus lawyer who knew nothing. Folks, it don’t get any badder than that.
I did some thinking on this sexual harassment thing and my own rich working past in dealing with the matter. This long before the NAGS got their fangs into it and who, silly me, thought were wonderful and on my side at the time.
Males make moves on females all the time and oncit upon a time, even now from time to time I suspect. I was once a union rep and had to work late often with the union VP, a fat really creepy guy. One night, next thing I know, the guy’s got his hand up my blouse and he’s pulling me to him for a big ugly sloppy kiss.
I slapped his hand away and harumpphhhed. I did absolutely nothing to encourage this man but he did knock it off.
Also had a boss, right in the office in the middle of the shop where I was a Quality Control Inspector, in the midst of a confab we were having over reports, slid his hand right up my skirt! I pulled away, embarassed though why I was embarassed still amuses me. Again, he didn’t do it again.
One time, this is really shocking to me still to this day, my very father-in-law put his hand on my thigh and made indecent overtures. When I told my husband about it husband just changed the subject. Found out later, after I divorced this emasculated creep, that the FIL was fired from his job for sexual harassment and I’m thinking he likely deserved it.
The biggest problem I had in my life with sexual harassment was about my ability to do the job rather than any kind of sexual thing. I was a Quality Control Inspector, first female in a department of all men. Some of those men were really bad, once locking up my one and only female colleague in the high voltage tank room. Once that door was secured, the voltage of up to 24,000 could be turned on. The idea was you go out of the cage after hooking up the leads to the wires, lock the cage door, THEN flip the switch. Only some brave, brave guy in our department walks by and thought it would be a hoot to close the door while she was still in there so the hyenas could all sit and watch her standing still in fear, yelling for someone to unlock.
I was a Union Rep on that one, got that guy FIRED, asshole, was nominated and ran for a higher union position, by my MALE colleagues, yes it was one of my life’s victories.
Other day my husband says...”Reminds me of Anita Hill getting all upset over a discussion of a pubic hair on a coke can. Silly thing to get riled about.”
Getting out of the way that maybe such a discussion never happened but husband’s assumption was that Thomas did say this but Hill was too sensitive. No. You get in a situation with a man where he starts to talk dirty, it’s not fun, it’s not nice, you don’t want to go there, do not say it’s all just innocent fun.
It’s scary is what it is. Again, not saying such a thing happened tween Hill and Thomas but husband’s stance that Hill was too darn sensitive is wrong headed.
Point is sexual harassment DOES happen, do not be fooled, though I seriously doubt it happens that much today. All of my incidents were before the big uproar over the matter.
I daresay most women around my age could recite the same kind of stories.
Seems to me from what I could glean from the Cain nothing burger story, that, at MOST, Cain had a bit of a roving eye for the ladies. All of these so-called incidents happened at the phoenix of the NAGS reign in power. Sounds like these women took advantage of something imaginery, maybe something real but hardly x-rated, and made some money.
For it IS okay for a male to make advances, with taste hopefully. It’s when he doesn’t take NO for an answer that the problems occur.
Don't assume guilt just because an accusation was made. It is also possible for women to lie in these cases. Innocent until prove guilty is suppose to be the standard
I have talked to people who know Cain and have worked closely with him.
These accusations are complete nonsense.