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Cain apologizes for comments on border fence

Monday, October 17, 2011 10:43:37 PM · 201 of 316
mylife to Norm Lenhart

Jeez you are a simplistic chucklehead.

Maybe that is why Mr Cain Entertains you.

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Cain apologizes for comments on border fence

Monday, October 17, 2011 10:42:41 PM · 200 of 316
CharlesWayneCT to Norm Lenhart

Sure, I “believe” in a border. And equating a peaceful border with a friendly country to the perimeter of a military base is stupid. We have armed guards at military bases in our own country, and you could get shot trying to break into them.

The term “invading” does not properly describe a person sneaking into a country to try to get a job. I know why you use it, because it allows you to dehumanize the people you want to kill, and to pretend they are some imminent threat.

I am all for shooting armed gunmen coming into our country. But until we declare war with Mexico, we can’t be shooting unarmed civilians who trespass. Trespass is the proper term for crossing into land you are not authorized to occupy.

There are a lot of things you can do that are illegal. Do you claim that all illegal acts should be punishable by death? If not, your argument that crossing the border is illegal is meaningless to the discussion. I haven’t said that crossing the border isn’t illegal — that’s what trespassing is, an illegal act. I’ve argued that it is not a capital offense. You argue that it is, but give no reason, or justification, or moral backing to your outlandish claim.

Do you support Iran killing American citizens who are caught illegally in their country?

I don’t understand how people can be so cavalier about ending a life. “do you know she is unarmed”? WHo really cares if she is armed, if she isn’t threatening to kill anybody, is carring a gun a capital offense now? I was just pointing out one example of the type of person you seemed to be saying should have their life ended because they crossed our border.

If you sailed into mexican waters, would you expect them to blow up your boat? Would it be OK for them to do so?

You haven’t seemed to be able to come out and say it, so I’ll ask again — are you saying that if I find an illegal immigrant at the 7-11, I should have the right to shoot them dead?

What exactly ARE you arguing for here? Are you arguing that people who don’t belong in our country deserve death, and we should kill them? Of only if we catch them AT the border?

I realize that Cain’s electric killer fence would require them to take a stupid act to get killed. But that’s not your argument — you have repeatedly challenged others to explain to you why we can’t just kill people for entering our country illegally.

My bet is that doing so violates international treaties, as well as basic morality and human decency, and the respect for human life.

No. In MY perfect world, the Mexican border would be like the Canadian border, enforced but not walled off, and where people cross all the time and are detained, questioned and sent back with a warning, not killed and strung up as examples.

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Cain apologizes for comments on border fence

Monday, October 17, 2011 10:38:33 PM · 199 of 316
Norm Lenhart to mylife

You said it was complicated. I didn’t ask you on a date, I asked if you believe deadly force in defense of the border is acceptable? Yes or no?

And

Then answer this one. Is a border something America should have?

There is nothing complicated about either. It should be simple for an American who loves their country to answer. I am sick to death of self proclaimed conservatives on a conservative web forum acting like liberals and you ARE acting JUST like a liberal by ducking a serious and simple question about the national security of your country.

If you do not believe we should protect our border as the Constitution says, and that includes use of deadly force, then what does that say about you?

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As you can see, Mylife, you and I have been down this road before. You didn’t answer it then and you are playing games now.

As all good liberals do.