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To: Mr. Silverback

“He was a socialist anti-war propagandist, NOT a soldier.”

True.

“He was an anti-war socialist correspondent.”

True.

“Most pacifist, socialist-loving correspondents aren’t exactly known for accurate reporting.”

True.

“Most American socialists hated Hitler when he attacked the ‘homeland’ ... “

True.

You have not proven any of my statements to be false.


121 posted on 11/05/2011 1:21:17 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas
You have not proven any of my statements to be false.

Au contraire, sparky.

1. Your statements that he was not a soldier and not a veteran are false.

2. Your assertion that he changed his mind about fighting Hitler is false on its face because it would require him to oppose fighting Hitler, then support it when he was drafted, then oppose it, then support it, since he has said he was still opposed when he reached Europe.

3. Your statement that socialist pacifists are not known for their accuracy is technically true, but since you were talking about him and his work, you were accusing him specifically and have provided no evidence to back it up.

Three lies about one guy in one thread. Charming, and so honorable.

“Why not, instead of commemorating Veterans Day, we establish and work on what we could call a “No War Day”.

1. Cite your source. Not that I don't believe he said it, but you've proven yourself to be fast and loose with the facts.

2. If a guy who is a war veteran wants to say that he'd rather have a day for peace than a day to honor guys like him, so what? You haven't claimed he merely had stupid ideas, you've claimed he lied and undermined the American war effort while in the Army. No evidence so far...

But not as a soldier, as a socialist anti-war pacifist correspondent who didn't want to be the only correspondent in his group not to go with the squadrons.

1. Citation? Include proof he was still a pacifist against the war at this point.

2. Doesn't that conflict with your idea that he stopped being anti-war when Hitler attacked Russia? His Wilhelmshaven mission happened a year and eight months after the invasion of the USSR. Care to explain?

3. How much combat time do you have in the B-17, again?

I don't think anyone can seriously claim that AR was ever modest!

There's garden variety modesty and there's making it clear you aren't Captain America. I meant the latter.

What was he? Was he a pilot? Co-pilot? Navigator? Bombardier? Gunner?

1. He was a guy who has a B-17 mission over Germany that could have very easily cost him his life in a messy way.

2. What position did you fly on the B-17? Pilot? Co-pilot? Navigator? Bombardier? Gunner?

One hit that caused one injury. To the bombardier who tried to block the cold air coming in with his bare hand.

And how many holes did your B-17 have?

Here is one of AR’s tales of war:

1. At what point did I say he was some Medal of Honor recipient type who spent WWII killing platoons of Nazis? When did I say he was even a particularly brave war correspondent? I said he served and that he had combat time. You have not refuted either one.

2. Are you saying someone has only served if they've seen combat repeatedly? How many times?

3. When was your combat time, again?

134 posted on 11/05/2011 3:08:03 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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