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Andy Rooney, Mainstay on ‘60 Minutes’, Dead at 92
The New York Times ^ | Published: November 5, 2011 (20 minutes ago) | RICHARD SEVERO and PETER KEEPNEWS

Posted on 11/05/2011 8:12:43 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative

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To: NewinTexsas
I quoted and responded to your actual statements. Moreover, even if I hadn't, you could discredit me completely by taking my "misrepresentations" and showing them to be such. The reality here is that I have refuted you repeatedly and completely and the reason you are trying to say I have done the opposite is because of the weakness of your case, not because of any weakness in mine. If that's not the case, post 134 should be to you as a limping antelope is to a pride of lions. So chow down or shut up.

Also, what "misrepresentation" is there in me asking this question, which you have failed to answer several times now?...

When and where did you serve combat time, and was any of it in a B-17?

Let's hear it, champ.

161 posted on 11/06/2011 11:30:30 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Charlespg

Thanks!


162 posted on 11/06/2011 11:33:30 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Mr. Silverback
When and where did you serve combat time, and was any of it in a B-17? Let's hear it, champ.

I have flown in a B-17 but not in combat. The B-17 was retired from service a little before my time.

163 posted on 11/06/2011 11:34:06 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas
Yes he did.

Sixteen million men served under arms for the US in WWII. How many of them were in the European theater? How many were within close proximity to London in '43? How many stories about allies or domestic UK events would have been of interest to Stars and Stripes readers?

Also, take Edward R. Murrow. He flew with RAF raids, but certainly those reports, though excellent, are barely remembered compared to his other reports of life in a wartime capital. Rooney couldn't do the same sort of thing in print that Murrow was doing on radio, and for a different audience?

Your assertion that Rooney would not have been able to find a good story otherwise as a beat reporter in a foreign capital in a time of war is, to be frank, moronically ignorant.

164 posted on 11/06/2011 11:42:16 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: morphing libertarian

Best to you. Is your Dad still around?

My Grandads served in Italy and the Solomons. One volunteered, one was drafted. Both Army, both in major combat. My next door neighbor was landing boat crewman for the Navy and served in both the Med and the Pacific, I told him he may have taken both my grandfathers in to the beach!


165 posted on 11/06/2011 11:45:26 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: NewinTexsas
He was drafted into service. He had considered filing CO but reconsidered. Purely coincidental that he, like many of his socialist buddies reconsidered AFTER Hitler attacked their homeland. He served as a correspondent and was quoted as saying that he was only after a good story.

Cite your source. Explain why you say he was a pacifist acting against the war when he flew the Wlhelmshaven mission one year and eight months after the invasion of the USSR.

166 posted on 11/06/2011 11:47:48 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Mr. Silverback
Cite your sourceSources. Mr. Rooney and Mr. Silverback.
167 posted on 11/06/2011 11:49:42 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas
When and where did you serve combat time? Let's hear it, champ.
168 posted on 11/06/2011 11:50:20 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Mr. Silverback
Your assertion that Rooney would not have been able to find a good story otherwise as a beat reporter in a foreign capital in a time of war is, to be frank, moronically ignorant.

From Andy Rooney's own mouth. I did it to get a good story.

169 posted on 11/06/2011 11:51:20 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Mr. Silverback
When and where did you serve combat time? Let's hear it, champ.

Why is this relevant? You already said you didn't serve combat time.

170 posted on 11/06/2011 11:53:38 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas
Sources. Mr. Rooney and Mr. Silverback.

Wrong answer, champ. To cite the source you must identify where Ronney said it. I've noticed every time I ask where you got information you change the subject. Where did Rooney say it, and in what context. Cite your source.

Also, explain why you say he was a Hitler-sympathizing pacifist acting against the war when he flew the Wilhelmshaven mission one year and eight months after the invasion of the USSR.

171 posted on 11/06/2011 11:55:28 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: NewinTexsas
From Andy Rooney's own mouth. I did it to get a good story.

Cite your source. Also, ErniePyle and Ed Murrow put themselves in danger "just to get agood story" too. So what?

172 posted on 11/06/2011 11:57:17 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Mr. Silverback
Also, explain why you say he was a Hitler-sympathizing pacifist

Please source my quote that you are misrepresenting.

173 posted on 11/06/2011 11:57:24 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Mr. Silverback
Cite your source.

Andy Rooney's book, My War.

174 posted on 11/06/2011 11:59:26 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas
Why is this relevant? You already said you didn't serve combat time.

It's relevant because you're a loudmouth talking about how a guy with B-17 combat time is a traitorous wimp who doesn't even get to be called a veteran. It's relevant because you're dishonoring the service of millions and making veterans look bad. Let's see what your record is like, shall we?

Let's hear it, Mr. Truth: When and where did you serve combat time?

175 posted on 11/06/2011 12:00:48 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: NewinTexsas

You have said that he was a pacifist who was against the war. You have said that socialists like him were fine with Hitler until he attacked the USSR. If you’re enough of a moron to think that you have to have written “he was a Hitler-sympathizing pacifist” before it’s fair for me to say that is how you described him, you should quit now and head back to elementary school.


176 posted on 11/06/2011 12:03:00 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: NewinTexsas

Where in that book did he say his motivation to fight in WWII was the invasion of the Soviet Union by Hitler?


177 posted on 11/06/2011 12:04:23 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Mr. Silverback
Where in that book did he say his motivation to fight in WWII was the invasion of the Soviet Union by Hitler?

He never said he was motivate to fight in WWII. In fact, he was an anti-war pacifist/socialist drafted into the army and served as a correspondent.

178 posted on 11/06/2011 12:06:04 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas
He never said he was motivate to fight in WWII.

Ah, so when you imply (at least!) that he was motivated to be in our armed forces because Hitler invaded the USSR, are you lying or incompetent?

179 posted on 11/06/2011 12:13:18 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: NewinTexsas
He never said he was motivate to fight in WWII.

Ah, so when you imply (at least!) that he was motivated to be in our armed forces because Hitler invaded the USSR, are you lying or incompetent?

When and did you serve combat time?

180 posted on 11/06/2011 12:14:21 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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