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A Last Bastion of Civility, the South, Sees Manners Decline
The New York Times ^ | 11/1/11 | Kim Severson

Posted on 11/03/2011 1:43:37 PM PDT by marshmallow

ATLANTA — One August night, two men walked into a popular restaurant attached to this city’s fanciest shopping mall. They sat at the bar, ordered drinks and pondered the menu. Two women stood behind them.

A bartender asked if they would mind offering their seats to the ladies. Yes, they would mind. Very much.

Angry words came next, then a federal court date and a claim for more than $3 million in damages.

The men, a former professional basketball player and a lawyer, also happen to be black. The women are white. The men’s lawyers argued that the Tavern at Phipps used a policy wrapped in chivalry as a cloak for discriminatory racial practices.

After a week’s worth of testimony in September, a jury decided in favor of the bar.

Certainly, the owners conceded, filling the bar with women offers an economic advantage because it attracts more men. But in the South, they said, giving up a seat to a lady is also part of a culture of civility.

At least, it used to be. The Tavern at Phipps case, and a growing portfolio of examples of personal and political behavior that belies a traditional code of gentility, have scholars of Southern culture and Southerners themselves wondering if civility in the South is dead, or at least wounded.

“Manners are one of many things that are central to a Southerner’s identity, but they are not primary anymore. Things have eroded,” said Charles Reagan Wilson, a professor of history and Southern culture at the University of Mississippi.

To be sure, strict rules regarding courtesy and deference to others have historically been used as a way to enforce a social order in which women and blacks were considered less than full citizens.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: dixie; manners
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To: buccaneer81

Yes. You let her go first. Especially if she only has a few items, or if she has a bunch of kids with her. Once you are in queue, you can hold position, but even then you should consider giving up your place.

On the metro, I won’t sit if there is a woman elderly man standing. Annoys my wife sometimes, but thats what it means to be a gentleman.


121 posted on 11/07/2011 12:45:33 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Little Ray

Elderly and disabled are exceptions with which I agree. But I’m not moving for an able bodied woman, especially one younger than me. It has nothing to do with “gentlemanliness.”


122 posted on 11/07/2011 1:09:58 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Hahahah! OMG, you brought out a little ‘attitude” from the clerk there...made him do his Steve Martin imitation...:)

Now, THAT’S funny!


123 posted on 11/07/2011 5:17:18 PM PST by rlmorel (The Rats won't be satisfied until every industry in the USA is in ruins and ripe for nationalization)
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