I went “off the deep” here as you so described because I mentioned this particular incident in the article indicated the young woman was young and that her parents were involved in helping her through that time, relating my own experience with sexual victimization, and a poster here told me that I was raising my daughter to be a wimp if I had to help her through a time like that.
Yes, my daughter, 16-years old at the time was literally RAPED. I don’t know what happened here. I hear the girl (now older actually) is working with her lawyer to have a legal statement portraying the events as per her side of things.
And I bet you a dime to a dollar people are going to be all out saying she’s a wimp too. And oh boy, NOW I’m pretty sure that whatever happened, there will be some that will be saying she overreacted a dozen years ago too when she felt compromised in whatever way she did back then. Is it any wonder she is afraid to just get interviewed?
Oh, she’ll be called a wimp and more, I’m sure.
Whether this was a rape (doesn’t sound like it) or sexual misconduct less than the physical act of rape), this lady had SOMETHING that happened to her 12 or so years ago, and I guarantee you she is afraid of what will happen to her.
Can’t you hear Sean Hannity even now? I can’t believe he’s a Catholic who should appreciate life, yet he trashes the victims without even knowing the actual events. He SO wants to protect Cain that he trashes the very people who were hurt to begin with.
And if you don’t think she (or they) were not hurt enough back then, how about adding THAT victimization to the menu too. Those who should have been the innocent ones are the targets of brutality by many conservative leaders like Sean Hannity even today.
Hasn’t she / they been hurt enough already. Does Sean Hannity and those other thugs who are mocking the victims, no matter how lesser of a sexual misconduct they felt they endured years ago, know what they are doing to these ladies and those who love them NOW?
They are pathetic.
If they weren’t hurt ENOUGH for you all 12 years ago, are they getting hurt enough NOW for you all?
Hey Sean Hannity, are they hurt enough for you NOW to care?
Or are they, and ALL of us who have gone through that kind of hurt just “wimps”. Should we take your hurt now like tough guys so you can get your Herman Cain man in there?
And stupid people here who want to say I’m using this for Governor Perry, you can STICK it.
PPP says a Cain implosion would help Newt Gingrich far more than it would help Governor Perry. In fact, that poll says a Cain implosion would put Newt Gingrich over Governor Perry.
Are you all too STUPID to see this Cain fiasco doesn’t help Rick Perry?
So I am NOT some Perrywinkle trying to sabotage Herman Cain’s dysfunctional band of campaign bozos nor am I helping Governor Perry by my indignation of the horrible acts conservatives are doing to the very victims they should be caring about!
And I am NOT going overboard with my anger about this.
I will admit we do not have accounts of rape but only of some sort of sexual misconduct, but let me tell you little small mind who wants to say I’m going overboard, being a victim of a sex act is nothing small, and being a family member of one who has been abused in ANY way is nothing small, and when we STOP overreacting to the advances of perverts who use and abuse we are ALL in trouble.
I suggest you all start behaving like you have some moral principles regardless of who you support. I have provided a reason why my “overboard” disgust of this has nothing to do with helping any other candidate.
I care more here that a voice for other victims and their parents will be heard by those who still want to respect the moral race and human beings, that some will at least start thinking about real people here more than how to help anyone’s campaign. I can’t expect those who have not gone through this to be the same voice as some of us, but gosh, you should at least be more concerned about real people who have had real acts of hurt against them than you should about some man who so badly wants to be POTUS that he’ll even lie about possibly even smaller things. Start caring about the right things!
Yea, give it time to see just how bad the events were, but don’t ONE of you pretend that ANY sexual abuse is ever right and DON’T tell us we are overreacting when there are conservatives who are not reacting at ALL.
This is pathetic, and I’m here to tell you it is so.
Personally, I believe it is those who won’t stand up to morals and values who are the REAL wimps.
“this lady had SOMETHING that happened to her 12 or so years ago, and I guarantee you she is afraid of what will happen to her”
Feel free to go after people for calling your daughter a wimp, and after posters who are jumping to conclusions for that matter. But it disturbs me that you can’t say anything more than “something” happened, yet here we are, talking about Rape, Rape, Rape. That’s wrong.
Trumping nothing up into inappropriate behavior is one thing, trumping inappropriateness into harassment another. All of them are somewhat understandable. Trumping inappropriateness or harassment into rape is inexcusable. Not that that’s what you’re doing. But you are doing reporter’s jobs for them by allowing the story to make you think about rape, when in fact it doesn’t imply it, let alone charge it.
Sexual harassment is not rape. But whenever anyone brings it up, rape is in the back of our minds, unjustly, in my opinion. Your aim is for real victims of real outrages to come out of the shadows; others aims are for false accusations not to be so casually made and easily accepted. Both aims are valid. I suggest furthering them by divorcing the issue of rape from that of harassment. Because they aren’t the same thing, or very similar, even though one probably does often precede the other.
It’s enough to talk about inappropriateness, infidelity, and harassment, because that’s all we’re given to talk about, given the evidence (if you can call it evidence). Where does rape enter?
“he trashes the victims without even knowing the actual events. He SO wants to protect Cain that he trashes the very people who were hurt to begin with”
How do you know they were victims? How do you know anyone was hurt? Sounds like you’re jumping to as many conclusions of Hannity.
of Hannity = as Hannity
“Yea, give it time to see just how bad the events were, but don’t ONE of you pretend that ANY sexual abuse is ever right”
I don’t, depending on what you call “abuse.” Because from what I’ve read, I don’t see any reason to conclude there was abuse. Nothing of that sort has been alleged, has it? Only bad feelings and uncomfortability due to non-overtly sexual words and/or gestures. You may as well tell me I better not pretend murder is right. Well, okay, but what does that have to do with what we’re talking about? Why bring up rape and abuse when the stories haven’t?
“and DON’T tell us we are overreacting when there are conservatives who are not reacting at ALL”
What does one have to do with the other? Why would conservatives underreacting give you license to bring up rape and abuse and pretend like we know there were real victims, when we don’t?