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Fury in Germany after Greek referendum call
Reuters ^ | 11/1/2011 | Erik Kirschbaum and Noah Barkin

Posted on 11/01/2011 9:43:00 AM PDT by mojito

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To: mosaicwolf

“They bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into....I say, ‘Let ‘em crash.’”


21 posted on 11/01/2011 10:21:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: mojito

I think a referendum on fiscal matters is prohibited by the Greek Constitution. I could be wrong though, its just something I read on ZH.

Anyway it’s a great idea. The feckless Greeks will finally get pinned to a democratic decision, and will either adopt the drachma - or watch in dismay as Germany adopts the Deutschmark and Italy recreates the Lire.


22 posted on 11/01/2011 10:21:58 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: mojito

This stuff is stirring up some long held resentments between Greeks and Germans from WWII. This is what Merkel was warning about a week or so ago in her speech when she said this mess could lead Europe into another war.


23 posted on 11/01/2011 10:37:39 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. - Prov 22:3)
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To: mojito

Hmmm...we could be about to see the first F-4 vs. F-4 dogfights in history...

Just sayin’. My money’s on Germany. And no, I don’t think this is funny, but it’s laugh or cry.

“Rome” is about to fall again, and for the same reasons as before. And the Al Qaida types will be glad to pick up the pieces...if the Russians don’t move in first.


24 posted on 11/01/2011 10:47:50 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: KarlInOhio
As a descendant and having lived there I would say your assumption is correct(*).

*As with nearly all things there are exceptions. For example, the Bad Dürkheim wine festival. While wearing a hillbilly hat and quaffing pails of white wine one marauds about whacking random passersby with a squeaky mallet and shooting strangers with a squirt gun. Of course for fun to maintain proper efficiency this must only be done at the correct time and in specified areas...

25 posted on 11/01/2011 10:51:36 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
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To: agere_contra
Oxi day Redux:

Ohi Day (also spelled Ochi Day, Greek: Επέτειος του «'Οχι» Epeteios tou "'Ohi", Anniversary of the "No") is celebrated throughout Greece, Cyprus and the Greek communities around the world on October 28 each year, to commemorate Greek Prime Minister Ioannis Metaxas' (in power from August 4, 1936, until January 29, 1941) rejection of the ultimatum made by Italian dictator Benito Mussolini on October 28, 1940.

26 posted on 11/01/2011 10:52:41 AM PDT by spokeshave (Cain....100% American, 100% Black and 100% for the Constitution...999 an added benefit.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Did you all know that 97% of Germans will kill someone if told to do so by the Government, and only 94% of the folks in the US. Result of several studies done during the 60’s.


27 posted on 11/01/2011 11:03:51 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Argus

Deliveries in the rear.


28 posted on 11/01/2011 11:17:00 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: spokeshave
When did "ochi" get an upsilon? I've always seen it with an iota and that's what my Modern Greek-English dictionary has. Of course iota and upsilon are pronounced the same in Modern Greek.

In classical Attic Greek the word for "no" was spelled ou or ouk--I think the iota is a later addition for emphasis.

Mussolini's idiotic decision to force war on Greece was not only a tragedy for Greece but for all of the Balkans--Hitler felt he had to come to Mussolini's rescue when the Italians proved unable to defeat the Greeks, and therefore the Germans forced the Romanians, Bulgarians, and Yugoslavs into the Axis (when the Yugoslav government that signed the pact with Germany was overthrown the Germans invaded Yugoslavia and occupied the more strategic parts of it while letting their allies annex or occupy other parts). But for that, Romania, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, and Albania might never have experienced Communist dictatorships and Greece wouldn't have had a nasty civil war after the end of WWII.

29 posted on 11/01/2011 11:17:14 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Little Ray

Because it is the Germans, Fwench, and English who hold most of the Greek debt.


30 posted on 11/01/2011 11:19:12 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The patienct is too far gone to save.)
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To: dfwgator
“They bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into....I say, ‘Let ‘em crash.’”

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"Surely, you can't be serious."

31 posted on 11/01/2011 11:24:33 AM PDT by Sideshow Bob
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To: Sideshow Bob

Throughout the world the takers out number the producers. What cannot go on forever will not. Since it all has to crash eventually, is it better to happen now, or later.


32 posted on 11/01/2011 11:30:02 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The patient is too far gone to save.)
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To: mojito

It appears that the story has changed, again.

But this is what Iceland did. It was in their constitution.

Smart Icelanders. The public should not be held to the debts the politicians made with all their vote buying.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/so-europe-fixed-again-referendum-basically-dead


33 posted on 11/01/2011 11:34:27 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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The public should not be held to the debts the politicians made with all their vote buying.

Why not? Elections have consequences, maybe if people thought things through more when they vote, we wouldn't have been stuck with Obama.

34 posted on 11/01/2011 11:36:34 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

These debts are mostly high roller bets called CDS.

They win, they get their money.

They lose, we pay.

That is what is happening. These are so called “insurance” that is not “insurance” that caused the taxpayers of this country to pay for TARP in the first place. The conterparties of AIG were given 100% on the dollar for LOSING bets. It is also what is causing MF Global to be bankrupt now. Losing bets. And OUR banks are full of losing bets on European banks.

THAT is not what our congress approved of.

I am just trying to make an issue that this country’s citizens are not responible for what is happening that is not well known here at FR.

There is already concern another Lehman is about to happen.

Can you say TARP II??


35 posted on 11/01/2011 11:43:24 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: dfwgator

remember what happened on October 28.


36 posted on 11/01/2011 11:51:13 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

That’s when the Italians gave Greece the ultimatum to surrender or face invasion.


37 posted on 11/01/2011 11:54:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: mojito
The Greek wallpaper of 2012:


38 posted on 11/01/2011 11:58:05 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: dfwgator
“They bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into....I say, ‘Let ‘em crash.’”

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"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!"

39 posted on 11/01/2011 11:58:41 AM PDT by Sideshow Bob
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To: mojito

not as stupid as you would think:

under the euro= slavery and loss of sovereignty

force concession from EU = leverage to keep euro alive

The Germans need the euro, the French need the EU.

There is a class of Greeks have never forgotten (or fogiven) WW II.


40 posted on 11/01/2011 12:01:52 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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