Posted on 11/01/2011 6:43:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
One thing for sure is that Cain is a quick learner. He didn’t handle this one well. But - but - but - are you going to let Romney or Obama have 4 (more) years of the presidency over this? If he pulls through this, I believe he will be more forthright. I really do. I believe he is a good man, a smart man, and a conservative man.
We cannot do better than Herman Cain at this point. Forgive him for handling this badly. He will do much better on the next thing they hit him with.
Whoever wanted Cain to be knocked out here should not succeed! That is more important than cain’s imperfections!! Don’t let the mudslingers control the story!
I am going into my 22nd year as a civilian with the Department of the Army. This SHARP (Sexual Harassment or Assault Response and Prevention), (formerly POSH) training covers all the previous lists of don't do, but with a little different twist. Now we get to hear about male on male or female on female harassment.
Beam me up Scotty...
I think it's worse when Candidates have things like this in their past and media does not release it. Take Obama, nothing in his past was covered and if they did cover it it was in defensive manner to explain it away.
The tone of the release was what I don't like. They should have reported that one case was filed and the other is just accusation and the one filed did not involve Cain doing anything of a sexual nature just the one claiming harassment took it as sexual.
Saw Cain on Greta, he seem to be doing his best to explain what happened. At the same time he seemed to be real worried about saying the wrong things. He did good but you could tell he would rather not be talking about it, who could blame him.
From what we know it does not sound like like he did anything real wrong.
Which makes it the 'perfect' accusation to bring, because it can be something relatively innocent (Is telling someone they look nice today sexual harassment?--it gets that quirky among those who were milking that sort of thing.).
Let's look at what we do know:
Cain was not the one who was dismissed. That implies that whatever he was doing, he was doing it right, and while these sort of allegations normally make an employee 'radioactive'--and unemployed if there is something to them, that did not happen to Cain, but the persons who allegedly received a 'settlement' departed the organization.
Had Cain done something worthy of the sort of mountain this molehill is being made out to be, he would have been canned in short order.
It could be coming from Hussein, Romney or Perry. It is a coinky-dink it hit the wires right after Cain beat out Perry in the University of Texas poll. UT, being the most liberal entity in the state, is very telling.
Charles Krauthammer said something on those ‘gag order’ type settlements in law suits. Breaking it only requires the person to pay back the settlement amount. Because it was only 5 figures, likely some news outlet will pay that and more to get all the details for another exclusive news story.
Undoubtedly, it was some entitlement minded woman that was looking for some sort of payoff or leverage within the company.
As for the primaries, I have no idea who I will vote for. When Perry came on board, given his resume, I thought he might be what the doctor ordered. Turned out it was Dr. Kervorkian writing the RX.
So it's inexperienced Cain, flawed Gingrich, no-traction Santorum, not-to-be-taken-seriously Bachmann. Oy. I'll make a decision by the time the primaries hit NJ. By then, some of these names will be gone.
Rove is one steaming heap of lawn cigars.
There was a bunch of that sort of thing going on when they were first pushing the boundaries of what could be sued for, and how much could be made. (I blame the trial attorneys for that crap).
He's not a seasoned politician so something that didn't amount to a hill of beans some 20 years ago wouldn't have been on his radar. When he was hit with it out of left field, of course he stumbled. Wouldn't you? I'm glad he stumbled. It shows he has real emotions and isn't plastic like Romney and Perry.
How come neither you, nor Politco, nor anyone else can produce said documents?
Post the supposed documents.
Yes, lawyers are the cause of a lot of our problems in this country, problems too numerous to mention.
It’s NOT “well-documented” if nobody has SEEN the documents, and it wasn’t necessarily a “settlement”.
I don’t know if anyone had to point Politico in the direction they took. It mirrors the Thomas smear except there appears to be some sort of paper trail in Cain’s case. From what people tell me, every campaign there is, including Obama’s, knew about it so it wasn’t exactly being hidden. It just wasn’t being addressed because no one took Cain’s candidacy seriously at the beginning. In Cain’s own assessment:
“I was just stunned, shocked,” Cain says of the moment he saw, on a green-room television, that Luntz’s group declared him the winner.”
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/05/herman-cain-sounds-race-debate-win-and-need-simplify-government#ixzz1cT9IBup4
Evidently Cain even mentioned the possibility of it coming out to his campaign operatives, so he wasn’t surprised.
In context:
“But wouldn’t liberals and Democrats still find a racially-based way to attack Cain? They certainly found a way to attack Clarence Thomas, the black, conservative Supreme Court justice.
“They’re going to come after me more viciously than they would a white candidate,” Cain responded. “You’re right. Clarence Thomas. And so, to use Clarence Thomas as an example, I’m ready for the same high-tech lynching that he went through — for the good of this country.” Cain smiled broadly. “I’m ready for the same high-tech lynching.”
Somebody in his campaign screwed up and left him vulnerable in not protecting him by releasing the information at the beginning. Some sort of warning went out to the campaign that made it look like this was a stealth attack by one of his competitors. Why would anyone do that with so much at stake? The story was going to break anyway because everyone knew about it. No competitor is to blame for anything Cain’s people could have controlled. Cain came out smelling like a rose on this thanks to Rush Limbaugh (and others) whose friendship with Justice Thomas served as an inspiration for his defense of Cain.
From the other side whose resources know no limits.
According to Jennifer Rubin of the Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/path-to-the-nomination-did-cains-end-yesterday/2011/10/31/gIQALDxtaM_blog.html
“Herman Cain was in the center of a firestorm, largely of his own making, yesterday. He knew before he entered the presidential race that he had a sexual harassment settlement in his past. He knew, ever since Politico started questioning his campaign, that a story was afoot.”
In another assessment, she wrote:
“Some people call this unfair and harmful to our political process. I disagree. If unserious and ill-prepared candidates try to take the voters for a ride, don’t bother to understand the issues or even their own weaknesses, they pretty much get what they deserve. And if voters bury their heads in the sand and vote for them anyway, they deserve what follows as well.”
Like he stumbled and mumbled and jumbled on the abortion question.
It is possible that Obama is trying to keep Cain from being the Pub candidate. This issue may not matter to the pervert Demon Rats, so no point in saving it for the general election, but liberals believe that conservatives are a bunch of straight laced right wing prudes that would reject Cain for even a hint of sexual impropriety. This is why you always see stupid smears about ‘foot tapping’ Larry Craig, for instance.
When did he stumble on the abortion issue? He seemed pretty straight forward on his beliefs. I saw his interview when he was asked. Some msm tried to twist it around which is par for the course.
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