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To: mnehring

Well, let’s see . . .

9% VAT:

Sale 1:
Raw materials: $60
Cost of labor: $20
Sales Price of good or service: $100
Real Income: $20
Taxable Sales Price: $40
Added Tax: $3.60

Sale 2:
Cost of materials: $103.60
Labor to sell: $20
Sales Price of Good or Service: $143.60
Taxable Sales Price: $40
Added Tax: $3.60
Total Tax: $7.20

9% Business Tax via Mr. Cain:

Sale 1:

Raw materials: $60
Cost of labor: $20
Sales Price of good or service: $100
Real Income: $20
Taxable Income: $40
Added Tax: $3.60

Sale 2:
Cost of materials: $100.00
Labor to sell: $20
Sales Price of Good or Service: $140.00
Taxable Sales Price: $40.00
Added Tax: $3.92
Total Tax: $7.20

Notice that the 9% tax in both cases are applied to the cost of labor. The 9% individual tax will *also* be applied to that cost of labor. That is a “hidden” payroll tax that is indicative of a VAT tax.

I’m still on the Cain train, but I’m sitting next to the door so I can get off if I think the train is headed for a town I don’t want to visit.


421 posted on 10/31/2011 12:05:54 PM PDT by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: cizinec

You are failing to include the hidden taxes currently in a product you buy.
Lets say you buy a widget from small business A.

To keep it simple, that widget costs $10 now.
The cost now includes:
Excise Taxes
Gross Receipts Taxes
Business Income Tax
Self-employment Tax (if applicable)
Franchise Tax.
(and more)

That $10 widget would include about $2.80 in its prices.

So now, you pay $10.00’

Under 999, that $2.80 in hidden tax is eliminated and replaced with 9% business tax (+.65c).. to bring the cost to $7.85 (($10-2.80)*9%) then you pay the 9% sales tax so the final out of pocket to you is $8.55.

$8.55 under 999 versus $10 under the current system.


422 posted on 10/31/2011 12:15:04 PM PDT by mnehring
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