Posted on 10/27/2011 5:35:51 AM PDT by Haiku Guy
Both the protesters and the police are at fault for the violence yesterday.
I'm not clear on what happened in Oakland last night, except that it was bad. The police are saying that they had to deploy beanbags and maybe tear-gas because people started throwing bottles, plates, and rocks when they tried to clear out the encampment at Occupy Oakland. I don't find this entirely implausible.
The protesters are saying that when their authority was challenged, the police reacted with overwhelming and inappropriate force, which I also don't find entirely implausible. Since the police and the protesters seem, to date, to be the only two witnesses to this event, I can't really call this one.
Since I don't really know which side is at fault (both, maybe) I'll offer some unsolicited advice to all parties.
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(Inane and useless pontificating follows abundantly)
(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...
“Then those cops are pussies. I worked as a bouncer in late nite bars in Chicago for years, and we had a motto, “Let them hit you. They’re yuppies. They can’t hurt you.” If these cops can’t handle a few bottle stones and hockers flying at them, they should have gotten jobs greeting people at Walmart.”
I’ve never seen a bouncer that would put up with being hit, having bottles thrown at him or being spit upon without some ‘action’ being taken.
What does throwing a tantrum for the right to sleep in a park have to do with Wall Street abuses?
Oakland shoulda imposed taxes and fees.
Hero’s bump!
the raid in OAKLAND was about 10 days from the statements that the occupy movement needs a ‘kent state’ moment
van jones -> oakland
this kid was hit with a gas canister and then moments later a flash bang lands next to him. odds are good he was targeted. why? as a retired marine, he would be the perfect poster child to ferment anger amongst the military
their next step will be to capitalize on it and swing that anger in their favor
if successful, the next step gets ugly
Hell, you can dress me up and full riot gear and bounce crap off me all day long.
Now if you throw stuff at me or spit on me as a casually dressed bouncer, and I'll subdue you without hurting any other customers around me, and you'll sleep on cold concrete with bad coffee that nite, but there won't be any innocent Marines needing brain surgery.
Both groups are using this for their own purpose.
The police state loves this stuff.
When it happens to a group of Sarah Palin supporters at a book signing, maybe they will finally get it.
They think it will never happen to them.
I seriously doubt it.
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