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To: allmendream
The Constution contains the phrase "ourselves and our posterity." It's very similar to a phrase that is used in the Constitutions/Charters of the original states/colonies, where it mentions "us, our heirs and successors" and their children shall be natural-born subjects OR free denizens.
Also, Wee do for Us, our Heires, and Successors, declare by these Presents, that all and every the Persons, beinge our Subjects, which shall goe and inhabitt within the said Collony and Plantation, and every of their Children and Posterity, which shall happen to be born within the Limitts thereof, shall have and enjoy all Liberties, and ffranchizes, and Immunities of free Denizens and naturall Subjects within any of our other Dominions, to all Intents and Purposes, as if they had been abidinge and born within this our Kingdome of England, or any other our Dominions.

Notice how it says that every person being a subject which shall inhabit the colony and each of their children born with the limits shall enjoy all the liberties of free Denizens and natural subjects. This seems to be recognizing two different categories of persons at birth. The so-called "third category" of citizenship is created by the 14th amendment, where it recognizes persons born in the country, subject to the jurisdiction. IOW, it's now for people born there, not just those who are born of ourselves and our posterity.

164 posted on 10/21/2011 8:43:12 AM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919
Interesting that YOU say and even emphasize “OR” but the section you quote from Colonial charter says “and”.

“free Denizens and naturall Subjects”.

As is pointed out by those who claim KWArk doesn't say what it says - subjects are not citizens. ;)

The 14th Amendment doesn't invent a third category - there is not third category - before the 14th and after one was either born a citizen with natural allegiance or one needed to be “naturalized”.

166 posted on 10/21/2011 8:49:14 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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