Posted on 10/15/2011 6:06:22 PM PDT by smoothsailing
October 15, 2011
It’s now a “9999” plan: 9 percent personal income tax, 9 percent national sales tax, 9 percent business tax, and a 9 amp jolt if you try to illegally cross into the US.
Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Saturday that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally.
The remarks, which came at two campaign rallies in Tennessee as part of a barnstorming bus tour across the state, drew loud cheers from crowds of several hundred people at each rally. At the second stop, in Harriman, Tenn., Mr. Cain added that he also would consider using military troops “with real guns and real bullets” on the border to stop illegal immigration.
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It is not the first time that Mr. Cain has floated the idea of an electrified fence. He has told the story many times of a caller to his former radio show who chastised him for talking about building a border fence, saying that such an idea was impractical. Mr. Cain often says he told the caller that he had recently returned from China, and if the Chinese could build the Great Wall then America could build a border fence.
Before we assume that Herman Cain’s suggestion will cause Democrats or even select Republicans to throw even more scorn in his direction, I’d suggest this: Cain could win over many of them simply by saying that in his border plan, the fence would be electrified with power provided by solar panels the government purchased from stimulus-backed green energy companies.
I think he’s now the “Zapanator”!
Great, wonder how long it will take for them to strip the copper out of it. /sarcasm.
Yeah, there would be people who would try to short it out. Sometimes they might even succeed. If it happens too often, you crank up the amperage. If you crank up the amperage too far, it will kill. What's the problem with that?
If somebody invades your yard, you might yell at them to get out. If they come on to your porch despite the warning, you might fire a warning shot. If they crash through the door, does the third time have to be yet another warning shot? I don't think so.
And the alligators will make great boots to sell.
Israel designed some good fence. As for yard invasions, I’m glad that I’m not in the suburbs (no government road within miles of here). ;-)
No they just have to SAY they will as soon as possible. Nobody ever checks.
I pretty much agree with you. I’ve had many conversations with Illegals and the ones I talk to just want to work, save and go home for a few months. They are taking our jobs, but the Feds let them. I’m tired of Perry getting the blame after he spent $400,000,000 of our tax money to stop them. A 1200 mile fence won’t work without a few thousand troops patrolling it.
As a matter of fact, yes. We have one up now to keep the hogs out and have used them over the years for one reason or another. One hog got hung up trying to go under it and was electrocuted by the repeated jolts.
Mr. Cain's alligators/moat remarks were clearly a joke however I didn't think his electric fence (that will kill you) and live bullets were (a joke). I'm sure he'll be asked to clarity and then we'll know.
Now that's funny.
He didn't really say this, right. He's a smart man. He would know better.
There is no evidence that ANY illegals are drawn to our country because their 2-year-old might qualify for in-state college tuition 16 years later. It’s a canard used to explain away the criticism of denying in-state tuition to americanized children with good grades, if a state wants to.
I never took Cain all that seriously as a candidate, but wants a 20 foot high electric barbed wire fence on the border, then how can I complain?
Oh wah, why doesn’t some Mexican philanthropist step in. Oh wait, they drug the kids in to seek a different fortune. Well they got the fortune they chose. Why does America have to make it any better than it is?
Make it out of aluminum. Theft problem solved.
And, maybe illegals might be less inclined to stay if little Jose can’t get a deal at Texas A&M. Go home and go to some Mexican school.
Thanks shield.
But there IS evidence that illegal aliens STAY here because of it. It is not a canard. Nothing should be done that would encourage an illegal alien to come here or stay here.
I guess the kids who have already lived here a decade or more “stay here”. But since they have no place to go ( they have never lived in their “home country”, they might not speak the language, they are americanized, all their friends are here, everything they know is here), and they have no means (they have no job, they don’t have a home to move into back in their home country), and the federal government is NEVER going to deport them, I believe you are wrong to suggest the in-state tuition is what is keeping them here.
But you said there is evidence — so where is it? Did they do a survey and find that there were kids who would move back to a country they’ve never been to if they had to pay twice as much for college?
Fact is, these kids are willing to pay lots of money for college, they aren’t destitute useless vagrants. If you have kids in high school, they probably know some of these kids, are friends with them, and would be pretty upset if they were thrown out of the country.
And given that we are talking about a few thousand kids each year, this is an absurd issue to throw out a good conservative candidate over.
What REALLY keeps illegals in this country is that we have jobs, especially in good conservative states with sound policies like Texas. Obama has done a good job of getting illegals to leave, by destroying the economy and limiting the incentive for illegals to come here to get jobs.
Apparently, unlike some states, the in-state tuition in Texas covers the incremental costs of a student. Anyway, these kids aren’t adults who just crossed the border to go to school. They have been here for years, they are americanized, they speak the language, all their friends are here, they are now adults and have no connection to their “home country”. Why would they go back to somewhere that they hardly speak the language and don’t know anybody?
It is more likely they’d just do a community college. So you wouldn’t throw them out of the country, you’d just limit their education — these are kids whose grades are good enough to qualify them for university.
And the kids didn’t “choose” this. It was their parents who decided to bring them into the country. I guess we can punish the kids for the sins of their parents, but when it doesn’t cost us anything, why would we?
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