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1 posted on 10/13/2011 4:57:37 PM PDT by COBOL2Java
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To: COBOL2Java

Bump for tomorrow...


2 posted on 10/13/2011 5:02:44 PM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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The false prophet Media has led half the country astray.


3 posted on 10/13/2011 5:04:00 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale.")
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Wow.


5 posted on 10/13/2011 5:06:03 PM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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The Media & Establishment Rebublicrats are trying like hell to serve up a crap sandwich (Willard).

Bottom line: I will NEVER vote for Willard. Ever.


6 posted on 10/13/2011 5:06:50 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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The “Team” broke up when those in a position of power and influence became afraid that they would lose that power and influence because conservatives really might win. Now it is Katie bar the door. We might even see prominent Dems and RINO unite to try and stop the flood.


7 posted on 10/13/2011 5:07:59 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To clarify: Wow. Rush gets it. BTW, lsm, Rush has followers. LOTS of them.

I expect the fGOP to go after Rush now. He’s taken the gloves off, and so will they.

Expect a smear campaign against Rush from the “right.”


8 posted on 10/13/2011 5:08:35 PM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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The crack between establishment and grassroots of the GOP go back at least to Goldwater and Rockefeller in ‘64. Heck, you could say that it goes back to Ike vs. Joe McCarthy.


9 posted on 10/13/2011 5:09:43 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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Rush is setting it straight. The Republican Party does not represent the bulk of American conservatives by design. It represents itself.

Not convinced? Just listen to a ‘Boner’ speech or interview like I did last night. Made me want to puke. And that is just the start of it. We have much work to do.


10 posted on 10/13/2011 5:11:27 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To quote Ronald Reagan “I didn’t leave the Republican party, the Republican party left me”.

I will not vote for Mitt Romney.


12 posted on 10/13/2011 5:12:53 PM PDT by Lets Roll NOW (Karl Rove can KMA)
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Rush is way behind the get a clue curve. Most FReepers have realized that the republican establishment is rotten to the core for quite awhile.


13 posted on 10/13/2011 5:13:35 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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That’s why I consider myself conservative, and not Republican.

That there are so many people who need to do the same explains why the Democrats were able to pull off their blue-dog ruse.

I wasn’t fooled for a moment. But, some evidently were since the Republicans neither cleared the brush nor fought fire with water.

Is the establishment born that way? Do they have tenure in the party? What are their levers?


17 posted on 10/13/2011 5:25:48 PM PDT by Sick of Lefties
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"What was it that caused the breakup of the team?"

If you ask the RINOs what caused them to turn away from conservative Americans, it'll be the letters they get from 'the crazies'. Fake letters. Letters written by dems - and sent out as if they're from us.. That's my guess.

I've seen people in the news refer to those letters - the ones filled with hate...or great praise or pity - but always to make a liberal feel good and a conservative who backs conservatives to feel bad. Letters written in dem war rooms or liberal elite PR firms - made to manipulate... made to hurt.

Rush should already know this - all the fake calls he's gotten over the years... from people starting the conversation by saying 'I've been a Republican for 30 years BUT ... and then go on to trash something or someone conservative. The people calling Rush with fake calls were organized. They had scripts - and talking points. Does he think they don't do the same with fake letters with someone writing 'I've been a Republican for 30 years, BUT....

18 posted on 10/13/2011 5:36:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (Occupy Wall Street Zombies Lastest Chant: “You Can Have Sex With Animals”)
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We all used to be on the same team, do you realize that?

When?


19 posted on 10/13/2011 5:41:55 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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Some of Reagan’s support came from Reagan Democrats. (We didn’t leave the Democratic Party. They left us.) Some of them were tough on communism and outside threats, but soft on socialism within our borders. The Reagan coalition fell apart when Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union fell apart. The biggest outside threat had vanished. Some of the Reagan Democrats went back to being liberals. A lot of them probably voted for Clinton. Twice.

They continued to call themselves Republicans and conservatives, partly because the far left had taken over the Democratic Party and was obviously anti-American, but they really never were fiscal conservatives. It was safe to be socialist again. And they wanted a socialist Republican Party where they could be comfortable.

The new Republicans probably didn’t care for the Bush Sr./ Rockefeller types, country club Republicans, but they could make use of them. Because the country clubbers just wanted everything to be stable. Don’t rock the boat. So, they could be gently nudged to the left over time, and what do you know, we have a kinder, gentler Republican Party, all mushy and flexible, and coming up with new spending programs and taxes.

The fiscal conservatives were left without a party. Thus, the Tea Party.


20 posted on 10/13/2011 5:45:29 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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I'll have to think about this. I'll have to think about when the Republican establishment finally gave up and decided they wanted to be Democrat light.

Worth repeating. Even on this forum, some FReepers think we should cast a vote for anyone that can "beat Obama". That rhetoric gets old. I won't vote for Romney regardless of which letter (R or D) follows his name because he is a liberal with a slick haircut and forked tongue.


21 posted on 10/13/2011 5:46:34 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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Once upon a time Rush was pretty much the only voice out there for conservatism, with the rise of the internet and new media there are lots of competing voices. He is not the only one anymore. His power has probably declined quite a lot because of this.

What I find a bit confusing is, didn't rush practically endorse Romney last time around? Here are his exact words taken from Hot Air archives from Feb 5, 2008:

RUSH: I think now, based on the way the campaign has shaken out, that there probably is a candidate on our side who does embody all three legs of the conservative stool, and that’s Romney. The three stools or the three legs of the stool are national security/foreign policy, the social conservatives, and the fiscal conservatives. The social conservatives are the cultural people. The fiscal conservatives are the economic crowd: low taxes, smaller government, get out of the way.

I happen to agree with Rush that Romney is a liberal Republican, but why did he think Mitt "embody all three legs of the conservative stool" in 2008, but not now? Mitt is the same flip flopping chameleon he's always been - only now he is a much better debater and slicker candidate in general.

Also, I did not realize Rush was fully deaf? Thought he had an ear implant that allowed him to hear? No wonder he sounds a little odd to me now on the radio. Does his staff type out all the caller questions and replies to him rapid fire so he can keep conversations going?

23 posted on 10/13/2011 5:49:29 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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Well Rush, the ‘team’ was already breaking up before you arrived on the air.

Remember “a Kinder, Gentler America”, the GHW Bush motto that sounded as if Reagan conservatism had been unkind and less than gentle?

That was an early clue that something had changed. Perhaps flattering attention from the Bush White House clouded your vision.

Some who worked with Reagan had been telling us hicks out in the boondocks that things had changed by the start of Reagan’s second term. “Personel is Policy” the Reaganites had warned us, and by 1984 the GOP time-servers and opportunists piled in to push out the weary Reaganites.

But better late than never. Good to see that Rush isn’t going to play waterboy for the GOP establishment. And it’s good to hear him name those who are more dedicated to acquiring political power than they are to the good of the country.


30 posted on 10/13/2011 6:29:54 PM PDT by Pelham (Immigrating America into just one more Latin American country.)
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bfl


33 posted on 10/13/2011 7:14:55 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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http://klsouth.wordpress.com/top-posts-essays/the-romney-rino-scorecard/


35 posted on 10/13/2011 7:16:34 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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The wag that I am, I guess we just have to apply O'Sullivan's Law to the Republican party, to wit:

Any institution not explicitly conservative will become liberal with the passage of time.

37 posted on 10/13/2011 7:33:28 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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