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To: Vigilanteman
Masanori Murakami didn't debut until the 1964 season.

Makes more sense. I didn't remember him being on the Series team but was willing to take your word for it. As I recall, he was supposed to 'save the day' but didn't. He was OK, but not stellar.

The best also-ran edition of the Giants in that era was probably 1965.

It seemed to be either the Dodgers or the Cards that came out on top with the Giants perennially second. I especially remember the tragic frustration of watching Mays trying to hit Koufax. Drysdale was good, but Koufax... It sucked. :-)

I always had this schizophrenic impression of Japanese baseball, that they were better as teams than we wanted to think we were, but then, when they got here they didn't do that well as individuals. Very different from the Cuban stars.

117 posted on 10/07/2011 7:50:32 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Carry_Okie
Murakami also had the bad luck of coming up just as the pitcher's era was at its peak. Had he come in at his peak just half a decade later, he may have caught on and had a respectable career. Certainly not outstanding, but respectable.

You just think about the great pitching in that era and wonder how they did it. Drysdale was certainly a Hall of Fame class pitcher as was Juan Marichal, Bob Gibson and others but stack any of them up against a guy like Koufax and they just weren't that impressive. Not that they weren't outstanding pitchers, just that the talent pool was that deep.

I think they generally consider 1968 the last of the pitcher's era. They lowered the mound and shrunk the strike zone and, of course, it had its intended effect. But I still think the effect was less than watering down the pitching talent with expansion and the retirement of some of the great pitching talent of that era.

It really makes me wonder how the idiots can keep a guy like Ron Santo out of the Hall of Fame when he spent so much of his career in that era and still managed a higher lifetime batting average than Mike Schmidt, who many rank as THE best third baseman to ever play the game. Santo's fielding skills were close to Schmidt and, if you take into account the much better pitching talent which he faced, his batting skills weren't too far off either.

118 posted on 10/07/2011 9:06:28 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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