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I like Sarah very much...bought her books, loved what she said. But I never, ever really believed she could win the Presidency.

Now, opinions of others be damned, I will vote for the GOP nominee. I will probably vote for Perry in the MI primary, as I believe he's the best all-around choice. Not perfect, but best of what we have. Love the Hermanator, but the last person elected President with NO elective office experience was Eisenhower, and he only, y'know, won WWII (hyperbole, but that was the feeling). Perry/Cain I would be enthusiastic for.

Mitt...bleh. But yes, I would vote for him in 2012 if he's the choice. Romney/Perry or Romney/Cain, better.

For all supporters of others, I implore you to do the same. Obama MUST be defeated. Hold your nose, tighten your sphincter, and pull the lever for Mitt in 2012 if necessary, and then work like hell to get a conservative House and Senate in place alongside to keep him on the straight (heh) and narrow.

117 posted on 10/05/2011 3:35:12 PM PDT by TheBigB
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To: TheBigB
I like Sarah very much...bought her books, loved what she said. But I never, ever really believed she could win the Presidency.

Amen, and amen! I actually think this is the beginning of something great. I never thought she could win the nomination anyway, much too much of a polarizing personality, but I do think she'll be very affective out on the campaign trail for others. She's a dynamic force, and I'm looking forward to all she'll contribute in the years to come.

237 posted on 10/05/2011 3:54:46 PM PDT by mupcat
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I will probably vote for Perry in the MI primary,

I may go that way. I haven't decided yet outside of no Mitt, no Newt, and no Huntsman.

277 posted on 10/05/2011 4:00:52 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Detroit Tigers - First major league team to clinch division title this year.)
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To: TheBigB
Love the Hermanator, but the last person elected President with NO elective office experience was Eisenhower, and he only, y'know, won WWII

Actually, your example proves the opposite of your conclusion!

Spousal unit and I were talking about this today while reading something about the "Corrupt Bargain" that put Rutherford B. Hayes into the White House.

We got on to Herman Cain and the fact that he had no elected experience and that last time that happened was probably Ike.

Then I said (my point here, finally!) - the thing about the presidency is that there is no fixed resume that the person should have. There are times when the president MUST have an unusual background, precisely because it is necessary to have a President that is unique for the times.

Ike was elected this way. He wasn't elected because he was a popular general. He was elected because the United States still had a lot of mopping up to do with the WWII, including figuring out our new military-industrial posture in the world (the U.S. had not been a Superpower until WWII), figuring out occupied Europe and Japan.

Ike had run a large organization -- the U.S. military -- and after the war the U.S. needed a President who knew how to run things, "move, shoot and communicate" as they say in the Army. Ike had helped transition from war to peace in the military and had helped stand down the wartime machines. Likewise the country now needed to make the transition from wartime to peacetime, all the while still have considerable mop-up duties around the world.

So Ike was elected because he was the right man FOR THE TIMES. He had the skill set and experience to address the unique issues facing the country at that time.

Cain is an accomplished, experienced, successful businessman who is also a great communicator and someone who CAN (unlike Obama) shift the topic of race, finally, into the 21st century. We need someone who knows how to run a business, who understands from experience the real economy. Sure, it's not WWII-level experience, but we don't need someone with Ike's skills now. Business, financial, real economy experience and skills are what we need NOW.

We may just be at one of those relatively rare points in history where there is a man who should be elected because, like Ike, he's right for the times he lives in.

402 posted on 10/05/2011 4:28:31 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Please stop posting "helpful hints" in parentheses the title box. Thank you.)
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“Hold your nose, tighten your sphincter, and pull the lever for Mitt in 2012 if necessary...”

Sorry. I’m done playing that game. A vote for mittens or his ilk is just a vote for defeat albeit on a slower scale. And I don’t think Gov. Perry is much better.

I’m disappointed that Sarah isn’t running. But we have a good candidate in Herman Cain.


790 posted on 10/05/2011 6:44:33 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Weather forecast: a cat. 5 HermanCain)
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