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Turkish warships harass Israeli freighters. Israeli missile boats off Cyprus
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Posted on 10/02/2011 9:45:16 AM PDT by Nachum

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1 posted on 10/02/2011 9:45:22 AM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 10/02/2011 9:48:15 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Nachum

The enemy in the Lawrence of Arabia days was Turkey.


3 posted on 10/02/2011 9:49:07 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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Turkey was of no help to American in the war against Iraq. They refused to allow American forces to cross through a small Turkish region to enter Northern Iraq.


4 posted on 10/02/2011 9:52:20 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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Turkey must have WAY too many warships-!!!


5 posted on 10/02/2011 9:54:15 AM PDT by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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I suspect Turkey is trading in part on its NATO membership. Since NATO is now a rogue gangster outfit, they and it should be discredited by the US.
6 posted on 10/02/2011 9:58:59 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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A hostile Turkey is no small threat to Israel. They are a game changer.

Turks are not Arabs. This could get very, very ugly.

The Arabs have been so fervently anti-American and anti-Israel for the last 50 years, that I doubt the current generation has any hostile thoughts concerning the Ottoman Empire.

I presume that the Islamists in Turkey long for the return of that Empire, centered on a new caliphate in Istanbul.

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7 posted on 10/02/2011 9:59:29 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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This stuff is starting to make me nervous.


8 posted on 10/02/2011 10:03:08 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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"Turkey must have WAY too many warships-!!!"

If Turkey slips up and endangers one of the Russian drilling crews, Russia could help reduce the oversupply of Turkish warships.

9 posted on 10/02/2011 10:03:37 AM PDT by Truth29
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Looks like the oscars are reverting to muslim form. Treacherous.


10 posted on 10/02/2011 10:07:06 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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I don’t know if they still have it, but Turkey used to have the world’s largest mechanized army during the cold war.

I used to win this question at trivia all the time.

Their only problem was that most of it was WWII vintage equipment, but these guys were still able to keep it running and guns are guns back then.

If this is the same army they have, Israel would slaughter them if they attacked.


11 posted on 10/02/2011 10:08:38 AM PDT by dila813
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It would be a turkey shoot.


12 posted on 10/02/2011 10:13:41 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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“This stuff is starting to make me nervous.”

Not good for my stomach at all.


13 posted on 10/02/2011 10:21:21 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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I think syria had the largest “fleet” of tanks in the world at one time. I think iraq did too, for a period. I thought turkey had the largest infantry at one time...probably surpassed by china or north korea or pakistan
now.


14 posted on 10/02/2011 10:21:39 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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sure, right up until the moment they run out of ammo.


15 posted on 10/02/2011 10:22:47 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."


16 posted on 10/02/2011 10:22:53 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama/Rangel/Pelosi Code of Ethics: DonÂ’t do as I do. Do as I say.)
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There is nothing magical about military dominance. IMO the Israelis have faired so well against the Arabs not because of technical superiority (which they have not always had), but because Arabs have proven to be poor warriors on the battlefield. And as I said, Turks are not Arabs.

Turkish Air Force (~800 aircraft):
Attack - F-16 Fighting Falcon
- F-4E 2020 Terminator
- F-4E Phantom II
- F-5 2000
Electronic
warfare - Boeing 737 AEW&C
- CN-235 EW
Fighter - F-16 Fighting Falcon
Interceptor - F-16 Fighting Falcon
Reconnaissance - RF-4E Phantom II
- Anka
- Heron
- MQ-9 Reaper
- MQ-1 Predator
- RQ-7 Shadow 600
- Searcher II
- Aerostar
- GNAT 750
- I-GNAT ER
Trainer - T-38
- SF-260
- T-37
- T-41
Transport - C-130
- C-160
- CN-235
- Cougar
- UH-1H
Aerial refueling: - KC-135R

Turkish Armor:
400 Leopard 1
750 M60T (120mm guns)
2800 Patton tanks (105mm guns)

Turkish Navy:
75 aircraft
19 Frigates
7 Corvettes
14 Submarines
108 Fast Attack Craft

17 posted on 10/02/2011 10:23:35 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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I expect Turkey will get roasted next month.


18 posted on 10/02/2011 10:23:49 AM PDT by tbpiper (Sarah Palin is the antivenin for the Obama poison)
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Somewhere in the way-back machine of my mind, I seem to remember reading that the Palistinians actually came from Turkey. Does anyone else remember that?


19 posted on 10/02/2011 10:26:28 AM PDT by ryderann
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NATO secretary-general, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, Friday, Sept. 30, said: “Obviously, the tensions between Turkey and Israel are a matter of concern. It’s a bilateral issue – NATO is not going to interfere with that. But it is the interest of the alliance to see these tensions eased, because Turkey is a key ally and Israel is a valuable partner for the alliance.”
The NATO Secretary contradicted Ankara’s claim that Israel would not be allowed to open an office at alliance headquarters in Brussels. “NATO defense ministers agreed during the meeting in April that NATO partners can have offices… This includes all partners,” he said.
Referring to concern about the tensions over natural gas exploration “between Turkey and Cyprus as well as Israel,” Rasmussen said: “I urge all parties to find peaceful solutions to disputes through constructive dialogue.” He said he did not expect armed clashes in the region. However, he suggested that Turkey has to be managed carefully as it asserts a growing role on the global stage.
Also Saturday, Cyprus President Dimitris Christofias had this message for Ankara: “I wish to underline to all those who attempt to question this right of the Republic of Cyprus: our sovereign rights are non-negotiable.”
Five days ago, the prime ministers of Greece and Turkey, George Papandreou and Tayyip Erdogan talked by phone. And four days ago, Adm. James Stavridis, Commander of NATO forces in Europe, flew to Ankara directly from Israel for talks with Turkish leaders.
Turkish harassment of Israeli cargo vessels began after those interchanges, indicating that the Erdogan government has no intention of meeting exasperated US and NATO efforts to cool rising tensions in the eastern Mediterranean. DEBKA


20 posted on 10/02/2011 10:40:09 AM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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