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Obama: Commander in chief must back gay troops
CBS News / The Associated Press ^ | October 1, 2011

Posted on 10/02/2011 1:56:23 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

President Barack Obama sharply rebuked his Republican rivals Saturday, saying anyone who wants to be commander in chief must support the entire U.S. military, including gay service members.

A combative Obama criticized Republican presidential candidates for staying silent when the crowd at a recent debate booed a gay soldier who asked a question of the contenders via videotape.

"You want to be commander in chief? You can start by standing up for the men and women who wear the uniform of the United States, even when it's not politically convenient," Obama said during remarks at the annual dinner of the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest gay rights organization.

Referencing the boos at the Sept. 22 Republican debate, he said: "We don't believe in standing silent when that happens."

Obama touted his administration's efforts to repeal the military's ban on openly gay service members, as well as his orders to the Justice Department to stop enforcing a law defining marriage as between one man and one woman...

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; obama
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
[Art., quoting Obozo] Referencing the boos at the Sept. 22 Republican debate, he said: "We don't believe in standing silent when that happens."

Tell that to Jesse Dirkhising, Scumbag. You and your Liestream Media "It Didn't Resonate" pals.

21 posted on 10/02/2011 4:26:27 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s funny the man who will not back DOMA insists that all following President’s must back Homo’s in the military.

Obama picks and chooses which laws he will back and then says others cannot do that.

“You want to be commander in chief? You can start by standing up for the men and women who wear the uniform of the United States, even when it’s not politically convenient,”

YOU WANT TO BE COMMANDER IN CHIEF YOU CAN START BY BACKING UP MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE MEN AND WOMEN AND KNOW THEIR GENDER JACKWAGON.even when it’s not your personal choice and politically convenient for your homo agenda.


22 posted on 10/02/2011 4:26:44 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Byzantine Basileus; Jim Robinson

Is this a serious question?! Are you a retread that was zotted for supporting queers?

I served in both the USAF and the US Army... If the military was as screwed up then because of queers as it is now, I would never have gone in. Not only do I have to watch my back in the shower (pun intended), but also out on the battlefield. Just being in the same unit out on the field would cause distraction because I wouldn’t feel comfortable.. which can mean the difference between life and death.

Welcome to FR... careful though, the owner of the site(JimRob) does NOT tolerate queer support(ers).

P.S. This didn’t mention religion, if that makes you feel better.

P.P.S. A true conservative wouldn’t support queers.


23 posted on 10/02/2011 4:29:16 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Byzantine Basileus; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Antoninus
There are so many things wrong with your statement, it'd take an opus to describe.
24 posted on 10/02/2011 4:30:56 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Byzantine Basileus

Because co-habitation with people who like to place their penises in other mens’ rectums them perform oral sex on same dirty member is disgusting to most heterosexuals. Is that clear or do I need to explain in a more detailed manner?


25 posted on 10/02/2011 4:30:56 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Byzantine Basileus

Could someone provide me a reason why homosexuals should not be allowed to serve in the military? Keep in mind I am secular conservative, so religious arguments do not appeal to me.


For me it’s simple.

As a young man it’s hard enough to be in the barracks in cramped quarters with other young men. Then when I was stationed on a ship I found out that the barracks were nice and roomy compared to having thirty guys stuck in a living space the size of my living room.

Now imagine that same space with both homo-sexuals and heterosexual guys. You have introduced blasting caps and dynamite together. The chances for an explosion have just increased exponentially.

I could go further but I won’t. It’s obvious that Obama not only doesn’t give a rip about the men and women under his command he actively loathes them.


26 posted on 10/02/2011 4:31:45 AM PDT by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: Bikkuri

Nope, not at all.

It is not so much a case of “queer supporter” and more of a case that I am a great believer in personal liberty and minimum government intrusion into the lives of people. As such, I cannot see a reason why gays should be allowed to marry or be open about their sexuality.

Being open of one’s sexuality is more of a case of “are you gay?” “yup” rather than “Look at me! Look at me! I kiss men!” *prances in pink*.


27 posted on 10/02/2011 4:33:50 AM PDT by Byzantine Basileus
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To: Byzantine Basileus
I really don’t have much of a problem with gay marriage either. If it is between two consenting adults, then the state should not interfere with their private lives.

Right. Throw out 5000+ years of Christian-Judaic tradition and civilization out the window to accommodate some high powered gay pests who have lots of money and time to devote to forcing society to give a stamp of approval on their perversions. Or maybe you don't think that guy X inserting his penis into guy Z's anus is not perversion?

28 posted on 10/02/2011 4:33:50 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: dennisw

I’m not a Christian, so I am not throwing out anything.

And it is none of my business what two other guys do. Liberty means that you have freedom, but you have an obligation to allow others that same freedom, even if you don’t like what they are doing.


29 posted on 10/02/2011 4:36:31 AM PDT by Byzantine Basileus
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To: ballplayer
They're baaaaack!

Who or what you have sex with should not be an Issue .... So Just stfu about it. (Emphasis supplied.)

IBTZ.

Been nice knowing you, troll.

30 posted on 10/02/2011 4:36:52 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Byzantine Basileus; Jim Robinson

We’ve heard it all before.


31 posted on 10/02/2011 4:37:06 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Darkwolf377

In my job as communications director of Defenders of Republicans Unfairly Attacked by the Media and Then Immediately Sold Out by Their Fellow Republicans (DORUAMATISOTFR), I am required to point out that the question and audience reaction went like this:

“In 2010, when I was deployed to Iraq ...”

(No booing.)

“I had to lie about who I was ...”

(No booing — despite the fact that not talking about your sex life with your co-workers is not lying about who you are. In fact, many Americans manage quite easily to go days and days without talking about their sex lives with co-workers.)

“because I’m a gay soldier ...”

(No booing, although we didn’t ask and would prefer that you not tell.)

“and I didn’t want to lose my job.”

(No booing.)

To recap: So far, a remarkably boo-free interaction.

Finally, we got to the question: “My question is, under one of your presidencies, do you intend to circumvent the progress that’s been made for gay and lesbian soldiers in the military?”

Then there was booing. And for good reason.

It is beyond absurd to demand that Republican candidates pledge not to consider altering a recent rule change overturning a military policy that had been in effect from the beginning of warfare until the last few weeks of the 111th Congress.

Of course there was booing for that!

At the time of the vote — five minutes ago — only eight Republicans in the entire U.S. Senate supported eliminating Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. It’s safe to assume that no one on the stage supported this sexualization of the military, except maybe one of the nut candidates polling at 3 percent.

This is not an anti-gay position; it’s a pro-military position. The basic idea is that sexual bonds are disruptive to the military bond.


32 posted on 10/02/2011 4:37:57 AM PDT by kabar
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To: lentulusgracchus

Please do not assume I am a troll. Please read the other posts I have made on this site before judging me, just because you disagree.


33 posted on 10/02/2011 4:38:13 AM PDT by Byzantine Basileus
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To: Byzantine Basileus
It is not so much a case of “queer supporter” and more of a case that I am a great believer in personal liberty and minimum government intrusion into the lives of people.

Thanks for the libertarian lunacy interlude. You are so cool you figure you (and gays) owe nothing to the civilization, culture and religions that made your high standard of living possible.
You are nothing but a hot house flower. Our great wealth gives gays the leisure time to dream up such nonsense

34 posted on 10/02/2011 4:38:36 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: Byzantine Basileus
And it is none of my business what two other guys do.

As a matter of fact, it is -- especially in a life-and-death vocation like the Army.

You have a really limited concept of what the American Experiment is, don't you?

35 posted on 10/02/2011 4:39:17 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Byzantine Basileus

IBTZ


36 posted on 10/02/2011 4:39:42 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Byzantine Basileus

As long as they keep their personal life personal, it’s their business.. just leave it out of my life (and any other hetro that doesn’t care for it or want it crammed down our throats).


37 posted on 10/02/2011 4:40:30 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: lentulusgracchus

As others have said, there has always been gay soldiers present in the army, so I do not think the military bond has been undermined.


38 posted on 10/02/2011 4:41:26 AM PDT by Byzantine Basileus
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To: lentulusgracchus

You can never mistake a queer troll, they never stop. This one won’t give up, it is clear he is on a brown mission. Probably a packer himself.


39 posted on 10/02/2011 4:41:38 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Bikkuri

I fully agree with that sentiment.


40 posted on 10/02/2011 4:42:02 AM PDT by Byzantine Basileus
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