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To: patlin
26 Plus years of military service, and I've always been briefed by the military thatAnd that was because military bases, the base hospital, where the child would be born, is United States property, sovereign land, just the same as being state-side.
After reading all this on this paper-chase, I find nothing to support what the military told me all those years.
Working for the military, U-S-A-F! (yoU Sure Are Fouled)
NEVER TRUST THE GOVERNMENT!
181 posted on 10/05/2011 8:39:37 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest
After reading all this on this paper-chase, I find nothing to support what the military told me all those years

It is true, the US Govt, after the founding era abandoned our brave men & women in uniform who serve overseas. Although it has never been true that military installations overseas are owned by the US, it has always been the view of natural law that was adopted by our founders, that men & women, no matter where they serve can not be assumed to have quit their country & attached their loyalty to another as long as they are considered “active”, thus the lie that keeps being served up to our military.

BTW, thank you for your service. We are eternally indebted to you.

183 posted on 10/05/2011 9:25:01 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Yosemitest
I'm a bit different than the Vattel Sec 212 hardliners as most they refuse the common sense of Vattel Sec 217 that coincides with Sec 212 that I believe our founders would have agreed with as none of them talked of soil, they only mention the nationality of the father which automatically included the nationality of the mother as nature always intended it to be:

§ 217. Children born in the armies of the state.

For the same reasons also, children born out of the country, in the armies of the state, or in the house of its minister at a foreign court, are reputed born in the country; for a citizen who is absent with his family, on the service of the state, but still dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted its territory.

184 posted on 10/05/2011 9:37:06 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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