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'Re:There is an agricultural guest workers program - H2B visa'

Agreed but these programs are not strictly enforced. Even when they enter legally many will work the job for a while then fan out across the country taking other jobs or joining their illegal alien families. The H-1b visa is another instance of where Americans are being scammed this way.

Current guest worker programs are a joke and why there's little support for additional ones

1. My point was that the current H-2B is not used because illegals are still cheaper and more compliant.

2. Agree the guest worker programs are not enforced. ~40% of the ~40 million illegals are visa overstays. In IT and in other professional fields we compete with illegals!

3. While there may be no support from american workers for more guest workers or 'guest worker' programs, corporations are constantly shouting shortage of americans who won't/can't do xyz job. Here in NJ people are taking out loans to become nurses while hospitals are firing american nurses, shortage shouting, and hiring guest worker nurses at a fraction of the cost. New graduates can't get jobs because they lack experience!

With record unemployment/underemployment 125,000 new legal workers are brought into the US each month! That's 1.5 million per year and its down from its former peak because of the economy.

My point was that the current H-2B is not used because illegals are still cheaper and more compliant.

There's no disputing the agricultural industry would much prefer the taxpayer-subsidized illegal alien labor. Even in the unlikely event one of these candidates actually secures the border and forces farmers to keep their workforce legal as Eisenhower did I have little confidence the government will enforce the requirements for them to stay legal.

Agree the guest worker programs are not enforced. ~40% of the ~40 million illegals are visa overstays. In IT and in other professional fields we compete with illegals!

Unless something like e-verify passes all of these "guests" can just drift around as easily as they are now finding better jobs and nothing much will change.