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To: NeverForgetBataan

You don’t live in Texas, do you.

The river in many areas are deep and wide.

Texas land owners own the properties going to the river.

Cattle ranchers use the river. Farmers use the river.

There are Apache Indian descendents who own land going back to the 1700’s when Spain gave their ancestors the land.

Are you going to tell them you are taking their land?

There are very large dams and two large lakes.

There are multi million dollar resorts.

There is Big Bend National Park.

Many many recreational areas people go to to vacation.

There are mountains and steep tall cliffs.

Besides all of that, it is almost the distant from Texas to New York City and it would take at least 10 yrs or more to build it at the cost of many billions.

And it does not work. Ask people from Arizona.

Only our military can secure that massive of a border.


268 posted on 09/25/2011 6:31:00 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: TexMom7
If one wants to secure the border...

and the border is a river...

then a fence is not the answer.

A fence on the U.S. side will cut off access for farmers and ranchers to the only water within 50 miles. And it will leave the river fully accessible to farmers and ranchers on the Mexican side.

A surveilled fence is the best possible answer from San Diego to El Paso.

A surveilled river is the best possible answer for the 1200 miles of Texas-Mexican border.

It's called "geography".

271 posted on 09/25/2011 6:43:35 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: TexMom7

You don’t live in Texas, do you.

The river in many areas are deep and wide.

Texas land owners own the properties going to the river.

Cattle ranchers use the river. Farmers use the river.

There are Apache Indian descendents who own land going back to the 1700’s when Spain gave their ancestors the land.

Are you going to tell them you are taking their land?

There are very large dams and two large lakes.

There are multi million dollar resorts.

There is Big Bend National Park.

Many many recreational areas people go to to vacation.

There are mountains and steep tall cliffs.

Besides all of that, it is almost the distant from Texas to New York City and it would take at least 10 yrs or more to build it at the cost of many billions.

And it does not work. Ask people from Arizona.

Only our military can secure that massive of a border.
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Any military officer will tell you that fences are great force multipliers. It’s why the Israelis built a wall to
partially separate the west bank from Israel. It’s why the East Germans built a fence along the entire border separating East and West Germany. And damn few East Germans escaped to the West across that border.

Ya. A barrier fence is gonna pizz “some” people off. “Some” of those folks have land that runs right to the border.

Guess what... Any good real estate agent will tell you to take caution when buying a home that backs up to undeveloped
land because you NEVER know what might be put on it.

You pays your money and takes your chance.

What happens when your next door neighbor sells to a family with loud obnoxious teens who leave empty soda cans in
their driveway and then they blow into your yard.. etc.. etc
Their not doing anything violent or illegal. You can’t call the cops.

You either STOP bitc#ing and put up with it.. or you sell and MOVE.

Same with border land owners. Farmers.. Ranchers.. whatever. They complain about illegals crossing their land and leaving trash everywhere.

Then... When a border fence was proposed... they said WHOA!!! we can’t do THAT. I’ll have to give up some land
for that. And it will “ruin” the historically open border
commerce.

Okay. Whatever. Put up or shut up. Or move. Or live with it. Or hire some unemployed Mezzican ZETA’s to protect you.

Mexico used to be stable... Border was stable too....
Nothing stays the same... Change happens... $hit happens...

There’s a LOT of illegals who would take minimum wage to build the damn fence too. Better yet.. put those illegals we have in prison to work building it for less than minimum wage and then catapult thier dirty azzes over it when it’s done.

I’d personally like to see some Americans who can’t seem to make a big enough profit employing U.S. citizens, put to
work supervising their Mexican illegals building that fence, since they love them so much.

Ranchers need water? run a pipe under the fence and buy a pump. Jeez... no big deal. And you obviously won’t need the fence in Santa Elena Canyon. You CAN build it everywhere else where the river is accessible.

We just have to want to do it. That is unless you’re a Perry supporting RINO.

FYI... I been in Texas 40 years.


273 posted on 09/25/2011 7:17:28 PM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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