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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 25 September 2011
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 25 September 2011 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 09/25/2011 5:04:26 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: Alas Babylon!
Regarding the latest Republican debate and subsequent straw vote won by Herman Cain, I think that voters have gotten sufficient opportunity to evaluate each candidate as well as good insight into their potential acceptance as the candidate most likely to succeed in winning the GOP presidential nomination. I watched George Bush rise in stature each time he debated and I became a supporter because of his ability to learn fast and articulate his position on various matters of concern to voters. I was not, and am not, fussy about speech delivery if it makes sense to me. Unfortunately for Rick Perry, he has done the reverse of Bush and gotten worse with each debate. I have to conclude that Perry is a good governor for Texas but not the in depth national leader I know this country needs at this time. Romney remains pretty static and predictable and capable and is definitely the establishment pick which puts me at odds with him from get go. I am grateful for Newt being present because of the strength and maturity and self assurance he projects which bolsters the performance of all of the debaters. Herman Cain won the straw poll because he concentrates on his own points and does not waste precious time digging up bones and trying to raise himself by cutting opponents down. I think the debates have proved that any new candidates who show up for presidential consideration need to have as much exposure on the public stage as have those who have already declared. It has not taken all that much time for me to make a judgment as to character, political smarts, intellect, agility in combat (think democrat opponent) and a slew of other considerations including love of country and total loyalty to this Republic. I have not overlooked any of the candidates, they all contribute in their own way to informing the voting public on topics that need airing. I wish them all well but I will not decide just yet whom I will support financially and otherwise.
181 posted on 09/25/2011 1:39:49 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God Bless the United States of America)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

His first step is to unite the “Flat taxers” with the “Fair taxers”.

Then he wants to eliminate the IRS.

I guess he would have to sell a Constitutional Amendment to finally repeal the 16th amendment and solidify the changes...and hopefully lock the rate in forever (except to decrease it).

It would go together real well with the Balanced Budget Amendment.


182 posted on 09/25/2011 1:55:01 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Good, I didn’t hear him say that at the debate.


183 posted on 09/25/2011 1:56:59 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: Miss Marple

I like Cain better. He’s not an “attack dog”. He’s upbeat and positive. He also didn’t make a stupid reality show.


184 posted on 09/25/2011 2:31:41 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Just go to his website; hermancain.com and read the 9-9-9 plan.

He’ll surround himself with pro-expert advisers in a heartbeat.


185 posted on 09/25/2011 2:40:48 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I like the idea of eliminating the IRS, but creating a sales tax without a Constitutional amnendment first, to guarantee the monster will stay dead, we are asking for trouble. And neither killing the IRS nor a Constitutional amendment will be easy.


186 posted on 09/25/2011 3:45:29 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: rodguy911
This time my chief objective is garbage removal

EXACTLY. What is ticking me off is too many people are playing "I'm a pundit too" and trying to claim they "know" who can beat O. Any of them can beat O.

187 posted on 09/25/2011 3:59:55 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: xkaydet65
A national sales tax will create a vast black market economy

No it will not. You got it exactly backwards. Our current system has created a massive shadow economy where millions do work "off the books". A national sale tax eliminates that.

It is not a VAT. It is completely different then a VAT. A VAT taxes every level of production. The 9-9-9 only TAXES IT AT THE FINAL POINT OF SALE.

But I'm opposed to Mr. Cain not his tax plan.He has zero world experience and has demonstrated little knowledge or grasp in the debate

I sorry but to say that indicates you have not bothered to listen to a word he has said nor take a look at his proposals. Other then GB 1, Cain has just as much "Foreign Policy Experience" as any of our Presidents since Ford. So come up with another attack line cause that one, like the rest of your post, is complete devoid of any rational merit.

188 posted on 09/25/2011 4:10:49 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: mountainfolk

I pretty much agree with everything you wrote except I still consider Sarah Palin a candidate until she says she is out.

You could argue that she’s waiting too long; time will tell. If she decides not to run I think she will say so soon.

While we have a tendency to forsee the current political situation with those of the past, they are, each and everyone, different. I, for example, was worried that 2012 would be like 1996, but it now seems to be more like 1980. Or maybe, just maybe, it will be more like 1932, with the parties switched. Obama will be the modern Hoover.

In any case, I’ll probably be wrong, as we all mostly will be. My one overall undying wish is: ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!


189 posted on 09/25/2011 4:21:00 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: rodguy911
I agree with you. Get Obama out, get the Senate back by some big numbers, lower the # of dem reps in the House, annd in governor's seats, state legislatures, etc. Even dog catchers. No dems!

We'll probably still have to fight for conservatism, but we don't DO easy. Freedom isn't free.

190 posted on 09/25/2011 4:27:37 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

LOL! Funny. I can even see Doris Day singing it.


191 posted on 09/25/2011 4:29:15 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: luckystarmom

I liked Sarah Palin’s Alaska. It showed her good qualities. I didn’t think it was stupid at all.


192 posted on 09/25/2011 4:32:35 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: MNJohnnie
Any of them can beat O.

Amen, brother! From your lips to God's ears. Amen!

193 posted on 09/25/2011 4:34:33 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: animal172

Herman Cain bio:

Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics.

Master’s degree in Computer Science.

Mathematician for the Navy, where he worked on missile ballistics (making him a rocket scientist).

Computer systems analyst for Coca-Cola.

VP of Corporate Data Systems and Services for Pillsbury (this is the top of the ladder in the computer world, being in charge of information systems for a major corporation).

All achieved before reaching the age of 35. Since he reached the top of the information systems world, he changed careers!

Business Manager. Took charge of Pillsbury’s 400 Burger King restaurants in the Philadelphia area, which were the company’s poorest performers in the country. Spent the first nine months learning the business from the ground up, cooking hamburger and yes, cleaning toilets. After three years he had turned them into the company’s best performers.

Godfather’s Pizza CEO. Was asked by Pillsbury to take charge of their Godfather’s Pizza chain (which was on the verge of bankruptcy). He made it profitable in 14 months.

In 1988 he led a buyout of the Godfather’s Pizza chain from Pillsbury. He was now the owner of a restaurant chain. Again he reached the top of the ladder of another industry.

He was also chairman of the National Restaurant Association during this time. This is a group that interacts with government on behalf of the restaurant industry, and it gave him political experience from the non-politician side. Having reached the top of a second industry, he changed careers again!

Adviser to the Federal Reserve System. Herman Cain went to work for the Federal Reserve Banking System advising them on how monetary policy changes would affect American businesses.

Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank. He worked his way up to the chairmanship of a regional Federal Reserve bank. This is only one step below the chairmanship of the entire Federal Reserve System (the top banking position in the country).

This position allowed him to see how monetary policy is made from the inside, and understand the political forces that impact the monetary system. After reaching the top of the banking industry, he changed careers for a fourth time!

Writer and public speaker. He then started to write and speak on leadership. His books include Speak as a Leader, CEO of Self, Leadership is Common Sense, and They Think You’re Stupid.

Radio Host. Around 2007—after a remarkable 40 year career—he started hosting a radio show on WSB in Atlanta (the largest talk radio station in the country).

He did all this starting from rock bottom (his father was a chauffeur and his mother was a maid). When you add up his accomplishments in his life—including reaching the top of three unrelated industries: information systems, business management, and banking—Herman Cain may have the most impressive resume of anyone that has run for the presidency in the last half century .


194 posted on 09/25/2011 4:46:38 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: MNJohnnie
I know I'll get Hell from all of you for this, but when November of next year comes, and the Republican is Romney and the democrat is Obama, I will be voting Republican.

To allow Obama another term is unthinkable and untenable.

I'm convinced the country couldn't survive four more years of him. Even if he loses, I'm not certain we can even recover from his policies or the type of voters who are for him and those polices. It's going to take a Herculean effort. We can only hope enough folks wake up in time.

195 posted on 09/25/2011 4:46:38 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

OK, above, I meant “IF” the Republican nominee is Romney!!!

I certainly don’t want him to be nor expect him to be, but I’m not not voting, and I’m voting AGAINST Obama.


196 posted on 09/25/2011 4:49:53 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: MNJohnnie

The cigarette tax is not a sales tax.it is paid at point of origin and added to the wholesale price. That is not what Cain is discussing. Hewants point of sale. Do you know how many agents will be required to monitor compliance. In NYC we employ hundreds of agents,the state has several thousand more. Retailers will have three levels of tax paperwork and record keeping.
As for experience, Bush 43 had his father.Sowcroft.Rice on his team. Clinton had the advantage of the supposed end of history era. Neither had the expectation of int’l crisis. Right now the world is falling apart,politically and financially. The US cannot afford on the job training.
BTW I have tried not to respond in the personal tone used by you. Insulting replies, I find.useless. Have a good night.


197 posted on 09/25/2011 5:11:37 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

At this point, I’d vote for Hillary if she we’re the nominee. I want Obama out, and all of the republicans ruinning are better than Obama.


198 posted on 09/25/2011 5:25:32 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: xkaydet65
I see. You are in hysteric because you know full well just how dangerous Cain's campaign is to your Party's electoral plantation. Cain proves all you Democrat's relentless demagoguery about being the party of "civil rights" to be utter lies. How dare a black guy be a Republican!

Guess you missed the classes in history that taught you about the Democrat Party's history. You know the lessons on how it was the party of Slavery, Segregation and Secession?

199 posted on 09/25/2011 5:34:24 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: xkaydet65

I am sorry but your complete ignorance of Cain’s 9-9-9 makes your commentary on it completely useless. You have yet to make a factually accurate statement.


200 posted on 09/25/2011 5:35:17 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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