Posted on 09/22/2011 10:13:51 AM PDT by ZGuy
Deaths are usually from women who did NOT get pap smears. That stat is on the CDC's site.
“Randall Hoven should resign from the American Thinker, because he clearly wasn’t thinking when he wrote that article”
He is most likely, among those of the younger generations who have been “educated” (no matter their own political convictions), in many subjects, with teachers from whom the maxim “correlation is not causation” has been intentionally ignored, so as to promote “the severity of the charge” over the “accuracy and veracity of the evidence”.
The lack of heeding the warning of that maxim is epidemic in every area of American life, even in the “Conservative” media, even here on FreeRep.
To the AmericanThinker author just the association (correlation) of the HPV vaccine with specific entries in a database of POSSIBLE warnings, was conviction enough. I expect that type of thinking from Liberals without question; I always hope for better from Conservatives.
However, that still does NOT mean that Bachman was wrong, only that the author in the AmericanThinker did not lift up good evidence that she was right.
Dream on.
I got shredded for giving her the benefit of the doubt. I remember that thread.
“Is the uproar because it is a sexually transmitted disease? I am puzzled.”
Yup. Apparently any girl who made a mistake in her life should die a slow death from cancer for her sins.
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Yes. Apparently, some tart who goes around being a ho, should get the HPV vaccine and live, and the nice girl who does her homework should die of a “rare complication”.
No - the numbers I listed are not a reaction to Gardasil. They are the recorded numbers of women who had some form of non-accidental, serious health event after receiving the Gardasil vaccine. There is no causation implied in those numbers. However, it does give us a base percentage to compare versus the general population of women who did not have the vaccine, but who also had a non-accidental, serious health event over the same time peroid.
I don’t know what that percentage is, but the one for those receiving the vaccine is so low that I doubt there’s much difference.
Tell that to the over 1000 women who died of cervical cancer in Texas in 2009.
18,000 were diagnosed with early stages, had to go through surgery.
Out of 111,000 tested.
CDC recommends the vaccine.
THERE WAS AN OPT OUT FOR PARENTS WHO PREFERRED THEIR DAUGHTERS NOT GET IT.
State mandated cost for the girls $10.00. Otherwise, $100.00.
But, those who didn’t die but had cervical cancer had to have surgery to survive.
What is that number?
Issue #1 deserves extra scrutiny because we’ve got the FDA wanting to regulate water and food. In the Terri Schiavo case, her parents couldn’t even put a washcloth to her lips to soothe them while she was being dehydrated to death because it was ruled that water was a medication, and unless the person could physically go to the sink and get the water for him/herself it could not be administered except at the direction of a doctor. People need to fully absorb that.
The “showers” at Auschwitz were just government-mandated “medication”. And all the steps that it takes to allow even low-level bureaucrats the same power to force chemicals/medications on us are in process right now in this country.
Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Obama’s administration is filled with people who believe that it is perfectly fine for government to put sterilizing chemicals and abortifacients in the drinking water without telling anybody they are doing it. These people occupy regulatory positions for which there are NO CHECKS AND BALANCES. They can do what they darn well please, and by the time anybody knows they did it, the damage can’t be undone even if they get a court to side with them.
Like I said, the steps that would allow an Auschwitz to happen here are already well underway. We might think it could never happen here, but right now there is NOTHING to keep it from happening. And that should scare the heck out of all of us.
Another thing we can be sure of: Anything run by Kathleen Sibelius is vulnerable to any kind of manipulation Obama wants to be done. WAnt to get rid of diabetics? Just slip a little bit of bad stuff into the insulin supply. It would be so easy. Want to start a swine flu epidemic? Just contaminate the mandated HPV vaccine.
When you’re dealing with ethical people, these things would be unthinkable. But we’re dealing with a man in the White House whose colleagues planned how to exterminate 15 million people who they anticipated would refuse to be “re-educated” after the Marxist takeover. Nothing is unthinkable to them.
And they’ve actually said that “over-population” would COMPEL them to take measures that most people would consider evil. Remember that Adolf Hitler wanted to HELP society by getting rid of the “undesireables”, just as Margaret Sanger (founder of Planned Parenthood) wanted to “help” society by getting rid of “undesireables” - and the people in control of every regulatory agency in the federal government are adherents of Sanger’s philosophy, agenda, and heritage.
Sanger said that she would win the eugenics war in a way that her colleagues in Germany wouldn’t be able to do, because she was more subtle and recruited charismatic preachers to convince people that it was a gift to them if they were allowed to exterminate their own children/race. She figured if they were stupid enough to buy that argument, then they were stupid enough that it was a favor to society for them to be exterminated.
We really, really need to look our opponents in the eyeballs and see what they truly are and what they truly stand for. If we’re too stupid to do that then maybe we do deserve to be exterminated.
Once again, the ignorance on FR regarding basic medical procedures and data collection is stunning me.
You have no idea what it takes for the FDA to approve a medicine/vaccine, and what must be shown in studies.
>>>the measles, whooping cough and mumps
The difference to many parents was that sex is by choice not by exposure. Many Christian voters or others who practiced moral values didn’t want to take the risk in Perry’s cramdown and they believed their daughters would not have sex in high school.
Perry made the vaccine mandatory. And then he continued to override a huge number of Texas voters who disagreed... perhaps this is an indication of someone who wants to act like a new Fuhrer if he becomes President. He did the same with the proposed freeway from Mexico to Canada.
Maybe you’re right: we should all get back to doing what our government told us to. Follow. FREEDOM IS SLAVERY!
So we should give the vaccines to children when they haven’t been tested enough?
In 2007 (the most recent year numbers are available)—
12,280 women in the United States were diagnosed with cervical cancer.
So...if you are going to die right away you ought to get a vaccine, but if you are going to die in say 10 or 15 years from HPV...never mind? LOL!
Not everyone dies from meningitis. There were more than 50 confirmed confirmed cases of meningitis in Texas in 2009, about 11% die from meninigitis.
Far fewer than those who contract cervical cancer from HPV.
But it doesn't change that cervical cancer is not an epidemic and hasn't been since pap smears.
Your entire "hasn't been tested enough" claim is a red herring to anyone who knows the lengthy FDA approval process for any drug or vaccine.
So...what you are saying is that Christian parents are willing to let their daughters suffer from HPV infection per chance they don’t abstain...rather than see to it their daughter is protected. I suppose that is good Christian Punishment for disobeying.
SAD.
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