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To: dartuser
Turning it off will work as well as taking out the battery (ignoring the risk you might turn it on by accident if the battery is still in it).

The Stingray works by getting the phone to report in to what it thinks is a cell tower. That's what phones do when they are on but in standby mode, but not when they are off. That's why you can walk off a plane in a strange city and suddenly receive a call. When you turned your phone on, it checked into the nearest tower, updating the carrier's database to show your phone now in the new city.

BTW, that standby activity is also why battery life depends on how far you are from the nearest tower. If you are far from a tower, the phone needs to transmit at higher power in order to check in, draining the battery more quickly. My phone's battery will last a week in standby if I can see a tower out the window, but only a day or two if I'm in a fringe or no-service area.

27 posted on 09/22/2011 10:55:37 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

That’s similar to how we detected submarines with a passive tail. if you know your speed and direction and get 1-2 detections you can estimate location very quickly through triangulation. A bit more difficult if the other target is moving, but a few more pings and you can estimate that as well. If all they are doing is listening for the ping then I would say this is public access information the phone is transmitting similar to talking in public. The part they would need to get a court order for would be the specific signal/transmission associated with that phone ID - similar to a wiretap.


29 posted on 09/22/2011 11:14:02 AM PDT by reed13
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To: cynwoody
Turning it off will work as well as taking out the battery

If it really matters to you ... I would do some serious research into this statement.

31 posted on 09/22/2011 11:27:50 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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