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Wisconsin: Largest state unions won't seek recertification by Thursday deadline
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 9/21/2011 | Jason Stein

Posted on 09/21/2011 1:13:25 PM PDT by UB355

Largest state unions won't seek recertification by Thursday deadline

Madison - By the end of Thursday, the major state employee unions covering tens of thousands of workers will have effectively lost their official status.

Top leaders for those unions say they won't seek to meet the high hurdle for keeping that current status laid out in Gov. Scott Walker's union bargaining law. With a deadline set for the close of business Thursday, so far only four smaller state unions have said they'll seek to keep their status by winning a difficult recertification election.

Marty Beil, executive director of the 23,000-member Wisconsin State Employees Union representing largely blue-collar workers, said none of the units in his union will seek a vote on recertifying.

"We looked at the law and we find the law at best an exercise in wasted resources," Beil said. "We've chosen to use our resources to organize our members and advocate for our members."

So only, only three smaller unions representing building trades workers, prosecutors and other attorneys have filed with the state seeking to keep their official status. A fourth union representing a small number of state research employees is also expected to file.

In March, Walker signed legislation ending all union bargaining for public employees except for bargaining over wages. But union employees still can't bargain for raises larger than the rate of inflation unless approved by voters in a referendum.

The legislation also requires that unions go through yearly recertification votes to keep their official status rather than keep that status indefinitely after an initial vote as unions had done in the past. Unions can still exist without that official status, but government employers, such as schools and the state, don't have to recognize them or bargain with them.

To win the recertification election, unions must get 51% of the vote of all the members of their bargaining unit, not just the ones who take the time to cast ballots - a much higher bar than state elected officials have to clear to win their offices.

A spokesman for Walker had no immediate comment.

Bryan Kennedy, president of the American Federation of Teachers-Wisconsin, said so far only a small local state union within his larger umbrella group is seeking a recertification election. AFT-Wisconsin and its member unions as of June represented about 17,500 largely white-collar government workers.

Kennedy said that one of his member unions has workers in 700 locations around the state and would need to spend large amounts of time and money to win a recertification vote.

"You go through all that and all you get to do is bargain (for limited raises)," Kennedy said.

State unions have to file a petition seeking a recertification election and pay a fee to the Wisconsin Employment Relations Commission by 4:30 p.m. Thursday or they will be decertified, agency chairman James Scott said.

The actual decertification won't happen, however, until it's requested by either the employer or a citizen, Scott said. That's in part because the agency doesn't have a master list of all the public employee unions in the state, he said.

"We're not going to know if they don't file unless somebody tells us," Scott said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: deadline; fail; largest; recertification; state; thursday; union; unions; unionthugs; walker; wi; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
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To: Indy Pendance

Wisconsin’s victory is a good one. It shows every other state choked by union thugs how to destroy them. The blueprint is there. All states need do is copy Wisconsin’s example. Gov. Walker is a 21st century warrior.


21 posted on 09/21/2011 3:38:09 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: UB355
"We've chosen to use our resources to organize our members and advocate for our members."

In other words, "We know we're going down but want to preserve our cushy union positions as long as possible".

22 posted on 09/21/2011 3:41:27 PM PDT by ken in texas (Can't Afford a Tagline... send money.)
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To: Indy Pendance

If we could say the same in California.


23 posted on 09/21/2011 3:52:54 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: NEMDF
Maybe I do not really understand this, but it seems to be HUGH, SERIES, and GOOD. ?? Yes?

The word is serious not series. Series designates an orderly assignment of "articles" based upon some definite criteria such as numeric order.

24 posted on 09/21/2011 3:56:44 PM PDT by ProudFossil
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To: NEMDF
Maybe I do not really understand this, but it seems to be HUGH, SERIES, and GOOD. ?? Yes?

And the other word is huge, not Hugh. Hugh is a name such as in Hugh Hefner, huge denotes a large or massive attribute of something such as the satellite falling to Earth right now is huge.

25 posted on 09/21/2011 3:59:47 PM PDT by ProudFossil
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To: UB355
To win the recertification election, unions must get 51% of the vote of all the members of their bargaining unit, not just the ones who take the time to cast ballots - a much higher bar than state elected officials have to clear to win their offices.

It is obvious where the author of this article stands on the issue. So much for so-called journalism.

26 posted on 09/21/2011 4:21:16 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ProudFossil

n00b

This is most definitely Hugh and Series. %(8-)


27 posted on 09/21/2011 4:31:09 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: ken5050
Absolutely....government workers union power in WI has been effectively broken...

Next step: police and fire unions, and/or full right-to-work.

It will mean that unions in other states would have to subsidize WI Dems in order for the Dems to maintain campaign funding levels in WI.

28 posted on 09/21/2011 4:41:06 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: April Lexington

You can’t imagine the feeling here in WI. We got one monkey off our back. We were double wammied. It’s such a relief. WI is a good state, we were saddled with the liberal label, but we were weren’t liberal. The fringe ruled this state, and they’re lashing out because we finally kicked their butts out of power.

It’s annoying, but, we’re going to kick them out for good. Thank God! Obama has a hard on for our state, everything he’s doing in this state is Chicago, and it’s failing. The choo-choo train failed, and Walker is his target.


29 posted on 09/21/2011 4:53:00 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: sergeantdave

Scott Walker has been a local icon, now he’s national. Everything he’s doing, he’s been trying in Milwaukee county, another liberal stronghold. He never once raised taxes in that county over 8 years. We knew who we voted for. Thank God for Scott Walker! He’s our hero!


30 posted on 09/21/2011 5:00:44 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Del Rapier

30 years ago, your icon was Reagan. You can get it back.


31 posted on 09/21/2011 5:04:02 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: UB355

they lose. ha fricking ha.


32 posted on 09/21/2011 6:06:22 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Indy Pendance; Diana in Wisconsin

The big problem is that I’m waiting for Diana in Wisconsin to send me 5 lbs. of Milwaukee kielbasa from the European Sausage Shop on Muskego Ave. in Milwaukee. So far, no sausage for me. That makes me sad.

And a jar of Polish horseradish would be nice.

( Just foolin’ with you people.) :-)


33 posted on 09/21/2011 6:17:43 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: ProudFossil

You are joking, right? Those two words were purposely misspelled in deference to Freepers (and their mistakes) from the past.


34 posted on 09/21/2011 6:21:56 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Indy Pendance

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God almighty, you’re free at last!


35 posted on 09/21/2011 6:27:34 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! “10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government")
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To: UB355
To win the recertification election, unions must get 51% of the vote of all the members of their bargaining unit, not just the ones who take the time to cast ballots

They scream about the Democratic process until they have to live or die by it.

36 posted on 09/21/2011 7:33:24 PM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

They have also lost the no bid union run health plan scam that they were running. Fewer dollars there also.

Formally it was written into some of the school contracts that they use the union health insurance. Competition saved schools millions and balanced their budgets.


37 posted on 09/21/2011 7:38:08 PM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: UB355

and the RATS, take another one in the.........HA ha!!!

38 posted on 09/21/2011 8:45:46 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Woodman

And the Union workers now know what is like to face an electorate, all of whom have their beebers set on stune!


39 posted on 09/21/2011 8:55:21 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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To: ProudFossil; NEMDF
The word is serious not series. Series designates an orderly assignment of "articles" based upon some definite criteria such as numeric order.

Are you series?

You can't be series.

"Series" is a series tradition here.

Series-ly.


40 posted on 09/21/2011 9:24:55 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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