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Perry's adrenaline-packed new ad
Politico ^ | September 21, 2011 | JAMES HOHMANN

Posted on 09/21/2011 3:56:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: fieldmarshaldj

Denial is not really fitting. Your actions are pro Mitt and counter productive. You are however not alone. Others have the pernicious disease as well


101 posted on 09/21/2011 5:34:26 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: McGruff

Puts me in mind of something my dear father-in-law used to say: “A wise man sometimes changes his mind, but a damn fool never does.”


102 posted on 09/21/2011 5:37:51 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Regarding the koolade, I am not a drinker nor a purveyor.

I am not a Perrybot.I am an observer and relate what I actually see and read.

I favor Herman Cain


103 posted on 09/21/2011 5:38:27 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Even as Democrat, Perry voted twice for Reagan, aide says
http://features.rr.com/article/09Mfd1F6JH8Rj?q=republican+OR+democrat+OR+election

The year was 1980, when one in four Democrats voted Republican. They soon became known as Reagan Democrats.

It was not until 1984, when Reagan won an even larger landslide victory against Walter Mondale and expanded Republican identification to 35 percent of the electorate from 28 percent in 1980, that one could say these disaffected Democrats became Reagan loyalists. They were voting for Reagan more than they were voting against Mondale.

Take a lesson from Reagan http://www.brspoll.com/commentary/TakeALessonFromReagan.php?sp=true

And then after Reagan's massive 1984 win, the 1988 election is far closer.

Many people who identified themselves as Democrats voted for Reagan and voted democrat again in 1988. To be shocked that Perry did the same as thousands of others is consistent with many conservative leaning democrats of that time.

104 posted on 09/21/2011 5:43:27 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The NAME of that candidate would be?


105 posted on 09/21/2011 5:44:54 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Cboldt

Not at all.

I’m tired of discussing this with people who don’t get it even after it is clearly explained to them.

The so called Dream Act is nothing of the sort, really. It means that people will not be investigated for possibly being illegal in order to deny them in state tuition, because everyone is treated the same, if you attend a high school for 3 years and graduate, you will be considered in state, not out of state. You need to get it, once and for all, that without this law, millions of Hispanics could potentially be investigated, simply because they wanted to attend college, on suspicion of being illegal simply because they are Hispanics.

My point about the military tradition of Texas Hispanics is lost on you, obviously.

My point is that those families have been here for generations and it would be a bad thing to be investigated if you were one of them, and so patriotic your families had always served in the military, but you graduate high school and are investigated as a possible illegal because you are Hispanic.

Without the law, which applies to everyone no matter any other considerations, that would always be hanging over people of Hispanic decent in Texas. And in Texas there are so many who are as American and as Texan as I am, who are Hispanics, which I am not. But the ignoramuses throughout the rest of this country look at every one of them as a likely illegal.

And I won’t suffer ignoramuses gladly.

My point about the vote in the TX legislative bodies is that it was so overwhelming, it proves the support was there for this across the board and it is stupid to pretend that it happened because of Rick Perry supposedly being a RINO.

Yes, I said it, stupid and asinine as well.


106 posted on 09/21/2011 5:51:45 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: SumProVita

It’s unfortunate that the generalization keeps getting proven time and time again.


107 posted on 09/21/2011 5:57:33 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

What President secured the border?

What candidate is stronger and has experience dealing with border issues? This was my biggest complaint with Bush.

But, Perry is NOT Bush.

Perry will secure the border as Commander in Chief when he has the authority, the funds and the man power/equipment available to him.

Reagan gave them amnesty and did not secure the border.

I didn’t vote for Reagan the first time either. I was a Texas Democrat too. I switched to Republican because of Reagan’s first term and I did vote for him for re-election.

I have been a Republican every since.

Texas was predominately Democrat in the 80’s.

Texas is now predominately Republican.

Texas Democrats in the 1980’s = Republicans.

The Democratic party left them and they switched to Republican.


108 posted on 09/21/2011 5:59:01 AM PDT by TexMom7
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

WOW!

Zero is toast.


109 posted on 09/21/2011 6:03:44 AM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen andY let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“...keeps getting proven time and time again.”

Your statement does not negate the fact that it is a sweeping generalization.

Where has this been *proven?*


110 posted on 09/21/2011 6:03:54 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
If one cannot "conclude" that an elected Democrat voted Democrat in the timeframe and was known for supporting liberal Democrats, what can one rationally state ? Perry has already proven his dishonesty with historic revisionism, sending out his supporters to make the claim that Al Gore was a Conservative when he supported him for President in 1988, when that was an outrageous falsehood. At this point, Perry would indeed be "less than honest" when it would come to claiming just exactly which person he voted for. Short of having a photograph in the voting booth, you're not going to have 100% courtroom-level unimpeachable "proof." I will state with 99.999% certainty that my claim based on his record as being a Democrat is correct. If we are to set that impossibly high a threshold here on FR, it will force you and the other AMs to remove an infinite number of posts on an endless number of subjects. I protest I am being unfairly targeted here.
111 posted on 09/21/2011 6:06:03 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Your statement: “It’s that basic dishonesty thing that Perry and his supporters have.”

At this juncture, I am supporting Gov. Perry. I certainly do NOT want Romney....and I have not been dishonest.

By the way, where has Gov. Perry been dishonest?


112 posted on 09/21/2011 6:08:21 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I like this ad...


113 posted on 09/21/2011 6:09:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I want a Triple A president for our Triple A country)
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To: thackney

An “aide” says. I don’t believe it. I state that it is an outright falsehood that is part of Perry’s attempts to misrepresent his past liberal affiliations. Willard did the same exact thing. We fully well know liberal/RINO politicians LIE when it suits them.

Again, how do you explain away this “Conservative”’s support for Socialist Al Gore, who opposed Reagan’s agenda ? Giuliani ? It doesn’t pass the smell test.


114 posted on 09/21/2011 6:09:57 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: SumProVita

Filbert Farhart. Stop wasting my time.


115 posted on 09/21/2011 6:10:53 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Ahhhhh....so you have no cogent response?


116 posted on 09/21/2011 6:12:16 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: TexMom7

Ma’am, there’s so much malarkey in that post, I don’t know where to begin. If you believe Open-Borders Perry will somehow do a 180, I’d like to sell you a bridge in Brooklyn.

“Texas Democrats in the 1980’s = Republicans.”

Demonstrably baloney. You’re talking to a political historian.


117 posted on 09/21/2011 6:12:58 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: McGruff

He changed his mind because of Obama, because people were pressuring him to run including his own family, many many Texans, many many Republicans and because there wasn’t strong Republican candidates running.

Would you feel better if he said, oh well, lets take a chance on 4 more years of Obama?


118 posted on 09/21/2011 6:13:27 AM PDT by TexMom7
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To: SumProVita

Read my posts. I’ve only answered that a few hundred times.


119 posted on 09/21/2011 6:13:48 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

You don’t believe.

At the same time, Democrats control the majority of the Texas House, Texas Senate and most of the Texas State level elected positions. And Reagan won the state in both elections.

But Perry must have been different from all those other Texas Democrats that voted for Reagan and then remained in the Democrat party. Got it.


120 posted on 09/21/2011 6:14:09 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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