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USAT/Gallup: Perry 31,Romney 24, Paul 13,Bachmann/Gingrich/Cain 5
RealClearPolitics ^ | 9/19/11 | RCP

Posted on 09/19/2011 2:33:20 PM PDT by CA Conservative

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To: samtheman
I strongly hope, and confidently think, that in the individual contests Romney will do worse in 2012 than he did in 2008

We now have obamacare which is a large version of Romneycare....he didn't have to contend with that in 2008...now Americans understand the disaster he gave to MA. So his goose is pretty much cooked over that issue. IF Perry will drive this home that Mittens will NOT EVER repeal obamacare give states waivers instead...well...you know the rest.

61 posted on 09/19/2011 8:00:55 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: mwl8787

If Palin gets and splits the conservative vote, watch Giuliani step in as well. He’ll work as Perry’s stalking horse against Romney in a quid pro quo.


62 posted on 09/19/2011 8:01:51 PM PDT by magritte
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To: Soul Seeker
I relented when he picked Palin.

We're on the same page. My first campaign contribution in my life came immediately after McCain picked Palin. I made a point to tell the RNC that the contribution was because of Palin.

Having said that, I don't think anyone can look at the damage done in the last 3 years and say they won't vote for the Republican candidate because that person isn't perfect. Perry's got his warts, but he is light-years better than Bambi.
63 posted on 09/19/2011 8:29:26 PM PDT by DTxAg
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To: Anima Mundi
>>>>>The argument needs to be refined somehow.

Keeping illegals off the welfare rolls is directly related to reducing the level of taxpayer money that is being spent right now by border states to fund infrastructure, health care, education and local law enforcement. This is placing a huge burden on the system that amounts to tens of billions of dollars a year.

That is one option to expand on the policy reasoning. Imo, building a fence along the entire length of the Texas Mexico border and not just in metro areas, would be a big plus. And it would pay for itself in no time with savings on those local issues I mentioned.

64 posted on 09/19/2011 8:34:12 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

I just can’t buy into the not going to college = being on welfare argument. There has to be something better. You see the disconnect there? It is not logical and a false either or choice...either welfare or college. It is untrue and insulting to imply that you are a welfare case if you only have a high school education. It is not as if they are unable to read and write. A better answer will serve him better. From this logic we should pay for everybody to go to college and erase welfare rolls from that point forward. Sending people to college is more likely to get them brainwashed into leftist ideologies, causes, movements and their special rights than to get them a real job these days.

Let’s try harder to make a better argument than that for our side. The premise is flawed.

There will be a question at some point like this: “Why do I have to pay out of state tuition if I come from Oklahoma to Texas, eventhough I am an American, but someone from Mexico, who is in America illegally, is considered a resident?”

To keep them off of Welfare rolls doesn’t address this inequal treatment to our American citizens. A better answer might be that anybody who can prove they lived in Texas for the required amount of time will be eligible for in state tuition rates and is considered a resident of Texas for that purpose.


65 posted on 09/19/2011 10:18:26 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (I didn't say it was your fault. I said I am going to BLAME you.)
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To: Grunthor

Lies are intentional misstatements. You are suffering from BDS.


66 posted on 09/19/2011 11:02:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Reagan Man
Still sophistry.

Your paralogisms cannot hide the fact that Perry is subverting the security of our country by luring illegal aliens to America with state goodies and Texas,I suppose,is still part of America.
We have plenty of illegal alien rapists, murderers and thieves in our prisons who snuck into America across Perry's open borders.If you are going to entice them in,at least keep them in YOUR state.

Now we may say “period,end of story.”

67 posted on 09/20/2011 12:32:01 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Yer it!")
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To: indylindy

Maybe the FDA should be held at fault because it’s still on the market. (for males now also)

http://www.gardasil.com/

Our cat died some years back. I blame it all on Rick Perry! /s


68 posted on 09/20/2011 3:52:43 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: indylindy

Maybe the FDA should be held at fault because it’s still on the market. (for males now also)

http://www.gardasil.com/

Our cat died some years back. I blame it all on Rick Perry! /s


69 posted on 09/20/2011 3:52:43 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: wolfcreek

The FDA is a government agency. They make all kinds of mistakes.

Trust them? Not on your life, or my life.


70 posted on 09/20/2011 3:58:04 AM PDT by dforest
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To: magritte

I had heard that as well, but I am less inclined to believe it.

Giuliani had hoped Perry would consider him as vp, but that trial balloon hit the ground fast. It would open the GOP ticket to constant attacks over social issues in autum 2012 - and play into Obama’s hands.


71 posted on 09/20/2011 7:18:32 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: Happy Rain
When faced with the facts you turn into a lunatic.

>>>>>.. Perry is subverting the security of our country by luring illegal aliens to America with state goodies and Texas,I suppose,is still part of America.

Pure hyperbole. You're nuts! LOL

72 posted on 09/20/2011 8:44:19 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

We will let America decide—this is the same debate we have every time some politician tries to rationalize amnesty—it didn’t work with McCain and Graham and it won’t work with Perry.

L


73 posted on 09/20/2011 12:54:52 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Yer it!")
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To: Happy Rain
>>>>>We will let America decide...

We always do. And since most of America is NOT crazy like you, I have high hopes that a conservative like Perry will take down Obama. Even with Perry's sucky immigration policy, he beats the crap out of the liberal alternative, Myth Romney.

74 posted on 09/20/2011 1:12:02 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man
I know you are incapable of clever digs but you should at least try to be more creative than “you're crazy” or “you're a lunatic.”
What am I supposed to say,”Oh Yeah?”

Your knee-jerk and infantile way of expressing your hurt feelings is just so common.
As a Perry supporter I have to accept some amount of retardation on your part but that mental handicap has a pity limit if you insist on behaving like a churlish adolescent;)

75 posted on 09/20/2011 1:46:09 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Yer it!")
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To: Happy Rain
You can project, rant and rave, stop your feet all you like. Won't change the facts. Your wacky replies to me on this thread indicate a serious break with reality.

>>>>>As a Perry supporter ...

Not quite. My objective is always to defend the truth and defend conservatives from malcontented nitwits like you.

76 posted on 09/20/2011 2:09:12 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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