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To: cracker45

What I’m trying to get you to explain to me is, when did they decide to change this rule, or codify it, or whatever? When did they define it the way you seem to understand it? Here is a list of Presidents with one or both parents who were foreign born:
Thomas Jefferson‘s mother was born in England
Andrew Jackson‘s parents were both born in Ireland
James Buchanan had an Irish father
Chester A. Arthur had an Irish father
Woodrow Wilson‘s mother was English
Herbert Hoover had a Canadian-born mother
Obama’s father was born in Kenya
Not all of these people were from those early times.
I don’t doubt that this issue will come up (spearheaded by people who don’t like Rubio). However, if I had to place a bet on it, real money, I would guess that if it made it to the SCOTUS they would find that it was NOT a correct reading of the Constitution.
I’m sorry this became a fight. I simply think this is not a real issue and it pains me to see conservatives get inflamed over this, as it looks a lot like the Truther stuff.
Oh, and yes, I love pictures, if you can draw something nice, go ahead. :)


148 posted on 09/29/2011 7:51:28 AM PDT by brytlea (Wake me when it's over...)
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To: brytlea

The founders identified the exception to the NBC requirement in the Constitution to cover those candidates who were born in the colonies BEFORE there was a USA, rendering it impossible for their parents to have been US citizens at the time of the candidate’s birth.

Everyone you listed met the NBC requirement except Arthur (who lied about his father’s citizenship at the time of his birth and hid the documentation) and Obama (who had Pelosi and the DNC fraudulently “certify” that he was eligible which was carefully ignored by Congress and the media). The need for both parents to have been citizens is satisfied when one (or both) noncitizen(s) had already been naturalized, regardless of their original birth place(s). For Rubio, his parents only became naturalized AFTER his birth in the US, so I claim he isn’t eligible to be president or vice president, but would make an excellent senate majority leader!
Concerning Obama (and assuming Obama, Sr actually was his father), he was also a British citizen at birth (Kenya was a Brit colony at the time), and became solely an Indonesian citizen when adopted by Soetero there. (Indonesia did not permit dual citizenships) There is also no evidence that he was later naturalized when returning to Hawaii, and he may have declared himself to be an Indonesian for purposes of one or more student aid grants at Occidental when attending there. There is also mounting evidence that his so-called birth certificate was “photo-shopped” so as to appear valid. It is therefore possible that Obama may be, in fact, an illegal alien!!
No wonder he has tried to hide, destroy or expunge all records of his prior life. All of this will eventually become known when he is no longer of any use to our leftwing, socialist establishment as is already happening!

JC


149 posted on 09/29/2011 12:46:22 PM PDT by cracker45
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