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Bachmann's Vaccine Panic
gastongazette.com ^ | 9/18/2011 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 09/18/2011 6:31:18 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Cancer treatment has made great progress in recent decades, but the tragedy is that so much of our effort to combat this scourge is just that: treatment. Once a disease appears, there is only so much that can be done. It would be far cheaper, more effective and less traumatic to prevent it.

A vaccine for cancer would be a triumph for public health. Did I say “would be”? Actually, it is. Such a vaccine exists for one of the biggest killers of women. But Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., is against it, and she’s not alone.

Two different vaccines block transmission of the human papillomavirus (HPV), which causes 70 percent of all cervical cancer in this country, as well as most anal cancers and some cancers of the throat, vagina and penis.

Each year, says the National Cancer Institute, more than 12,000 American women are diagnosed with cervical cancer alone, and some 4,000 will die of it. That’s not counting the genital warts HPV can cause.

It’s a nasty but very common bug that the world would be better off without. Universal inoculation would be a huge step toward eradicating it and the suffering it causes.

But there is a big impediment to its use: HPV is sexually transmitted, which makes the vaccine controversial — especially because to achieve maximum effectiveness, it has to be administered before the recipient becomes sexually active. And in this country, 6 percent of youngsters have sex by the age of 13.


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KEYWORDS: barkingmoonbat; captaingardasil; perrybotsattack; rinoperry; rinorick
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To: napscoordinator

She lied which is a major sin for a good Christian to do in order to win.

She has brought this on herself. It’s a good thing because it highlights the fact that she is not ready for primetime and dang sure not fit for the Office of the President. No shrill and hysterical woman should come close to handling the football.


41 posted on 09/18/2011 7:45:16 AM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: RoosterRedux; All
There is a reasonable case against what Perry wanted to do re: Gardasil. Rick Santorum made that case very well in the debate.

If Bachmann would have made that case I'd be totally fine with her.

But if I become convinced (and I'm getting close) that she's pandering to the anti-vaccinations-in-general moonbat fringe, she's permanently off my list.

42 posted on 09/18/2011 7:48:37 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Nothing will cure the economy but debt deleveraging, deregulation, and time.)
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To: miss marmelstein

You and I are of like mind on this - and a lot of others are too I suspect. Perry is supposed to have some genius running his campaign. Really? I never thought Rove was a genius (something many more folks agree with me on today than say, in November 04) and I don’t think Perry’s advisors are that great either - and he doesn’t seem to be extremely quick off the hip.

Wish were that we could meld Perry’s image and Newt’s quickness and say Palin’s principles into one super candidate....or something like that.


43 posted on 09/18/2011 7:51:24 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: napscoordinator
I am a conservative, always have been always will be. I am disappointed in Bachmann. She essentially accused Perry of taking a bribe without any regards for the truth or the long term ramifications of the accusation. I have no problem with Bachmann's views, I welcome them and they should be part of the debate. But what she did was wrong and I am sure if Perry gets the nomination her statements will probably be used the 0bama campaign in 2012 against him.
44 posted on 09/18/2011 7:53:22 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: RoosterRedux
IMO repeating an anecdotal account as fact is a sign of poor judgment, no matter how well-meaning the person who told her the story.

Anecdotes are not science. She ought to have known better.

I use to like Bachmann, but there is an impulsiveness and/or intensity about her that concerns me re: her judgment. There is something about her that reminds me of Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction (I think it's the eyes).

You go over the line here into sexism. She is a beautiful woman. "Impulsiveness", "intensity"? Santorum has the same, yet you would nevey make such a silly comparision. C'mon.

45 posted on 09/18/2011 7:53:29 AM PDT by montag813
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To: miss marmelstein

He didn’t stand up to her because he is a Texas GENTLEMAN. I guess he assumed that she was a lady and was shocked to find out that she was not. It’s a southern thing - men who were raised as gentlemen are still protective of ladies.


46 posted on 09/18/2011 7:55:03 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: CajunConservative

Prove it that she lied. You can’t. She may very well be telling the truth. Of course you would have been front and center at the Salem witch trials. Ensuring that people killed those women without proving that they were evil. In fact, you probably would have been the one to order the trials. You don’t seem like a Christian to me at all.


47 posted on 09/18/2011 7:55:29 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Perdogg

She actually said some very true things. She said that she received money from Merck. He did. She said that the vaccine should not be government run. It was and he signed the EO without legislation support. He did. She said that some folks have gotten sick from the vaccine. They did. What is wrong. She seems more right than anybody. By the way, I have ZERO problem with you being disappointed in her and even decide not to vote for her, but to smear her with that unfortunate picture is wrong.


48 posted on 09/18/2011 7:58:27 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Notary Sojac
I agree Rick Santorum said it best.

I think we need to hear what Governor Perry’s saying. He’s saying that his policy was right. He believes that what he did was right. He thinks he went about it the wrong way.

I believe your policy is wrong. Why — ladies and gentlemen, why do we inoculate people with vaccines in public schools? Because we’re afraid of those diseases being communicable between people at school. And therefore, to protect the rest of the people at school, we have vaccinations to protect those children.

Unless Texas has a very progressive way of communicating diseases in their school by way of their curriculum, then there is no government purpose served for having little girls inoculated at the force and compulsion of the government. This is big government run amok. It is bad policy, and it should not have been done.

49 posted on 09/18/2011 7:58:56 AM PDT by McGruff (Vetting - The process of examination and evaluation of a candidate's record.)
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To: CajunConservative
She lied which is a major sin for a good Christian to do in order to win.

Please provide a quote of her "lie" or take that statement back.

50 posted on 09/18/2011 8:00:43 AM PDT by McGruff (Vetting - The process of examination and evaluation of a candidate's record.)
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To: montag813
You go over the line here into sexism. She is a beautiful woman. "Impulsiveness", "intensity"?

Howard Dean has the same problem (even Dims thought so), so I don't think it is sexism.

And as to beauty...when it comes to a presidential candidate, beauty is simply not part of the equation.

51 posted on 09/18/2011 8:00:48 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: napscoordinator

She’s been given plenty of incentive$ to verify the accusations.

Until she does that she’s lying. If that woman was there in the audience it wouldn’t be that hard to find her and be interviewed by CNN don’t you think?


52 posted on 09/18/2011 8:01:52 AM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: nanetteclaret

Oh, yeah? You mean like all the Texan freepers who post the most hideous photos of the woman and denigrate her in the most disgusting way!? Don’t make me laugh.

He didn’t challenge her because he didn’t know what hit him.

Now, she’s not a lady, folks!

You Perry people are ridiculous.


53 posted on 09/18/2011 8:02:09 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: napscoordinator

Someone recently said that Joe McGinniss would be present at witch burnings in Europe. It gave me pause. I had never thought about that before. We have witch burnings and hangings on both sides of the aisle these days. Very unsettling.


54 posted on 09/18/2011 8:04:56 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: CajunConservative

You call yourself a conservative but want an American woman to be guilty before she is innocent? What planet do you people come from?

I’m telling you: you are doing yourself no favors by being rabid towards MB in your quest to put Perry in the White House. You have completely turned me off to him as a candidate and I went into this with no feelings about him.
In fact, I had never heard of him. I wish it had stayed that way!


55 posted on 09/18/2011 8:09:28 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Bachmann’s Vaccine lie.


56 posted on 09/18/2011 8:11:39 AM PDT by Grunthor (Almost any republican currently running for POTUS would be light years better than Obama)
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To: McGruff
Putting all of the Bachmann nonsense aside, yes Santorum has it right and Perry has it wrong on Gardisil.

It should be an opt-in program and not an opt-out program.

But some defenders will use this Bachmann nonsense as a strawman fallacy to avert attention away from the real issue. And some Perry critics will take the bait and argue the wrong point.

57 posted on 09/18/2011 8:13:40 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: miss marmelstein
What planet do you people come from?

Some from Nibiru and some from Uranus.;-)

58 posted on 09/18/2011 8:15:00 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Look Newbie, Ms. Bachmann is RIGHT.

Rick Perry was acting as a RINO
while he was the Merck-Mandator for Texas.


59 posted on 09/18/2011 8:15:45 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: CajunConservative

Protecting the innocent means nothing to you and the RINOs.

Ms. Bachmann, even if she misspoke, was SPEAKING UP FOR
RIGHTS.

PerryCARE I by Mandate was Wrong and insight into the
thinking of a RINO.

More insight is gained by this attack on Ms. Bachmann.


60 posted on 09/18/2011 8:17:38 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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