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To: Buckeye McFrog
YOu do know that in the years that Gardasil has been on the market, more than 36 million people have been vaccinated, and there are NO deaths that have been found to be caused by the vaccine?

You can argue over whether a 12-year-old should recieve the vaccine. It is meant to be given before you become sexually active, and it requires a 6-month schedule, and if you already have an HPV it can actually be more risky, so the normal situation is for the vaccine to be given to virgins.

There is little evidence that Gardasil wasn't properly vetted, or that it's trials were flawed. The statistics since it became widely available show that claims that it was unncessarily risky are false.

Sarah Palin's Alaska encourages pre-teen girls to get this vaccination. They push it on a government web site, with government (taxpayer) funds, and also encourge people who don't qualify for the free program to still get the vaccine.

It is voluntary, which LONG AGO was the argument against Perry -- making it a requirement. Somehow, Bachman has managed to trick some conservatives into thinking the issue is the vaccine itself, like either it is evil because it vaccinates against a sexually transmitted disease (apparently those are God's punishment for sinful actions, so we shouldn't vaccinate for them), or that it is bad because it will make your kids retarded, and is unsafe, and everybody should actively work to get it off the market.

But when Sarah Palin was Governor of Alaska, she had no problem with signing up for a federal program to offer this supposedly evil, sinful, child-killing vaccine to the pre-teen girls in her state -- So long as parents chose to do so voluntarily.

I am actually hard-pressed anymore to figure out what the valid charge is against Perry. It was that since this was not a communicable disease, we shouldn't require it for attendance in public schools. I agree with that, I fought the requirement in Virginia, and Perry was wrong to add it to the list for THAT reason.

But that apparently wasn't a good enough reason to attack Perry, so people started making up all sorts of other attacks. Like:

  1. the drug is unsafe -- it isn't.
  2. he only approved it because he got money from Merck, or because a friend of his told him to do it -- there is no evidence for this claim, no e-mails, letters, or prior art suggesting a change of heart. Meanwhile, there is lots of evidence to the contrary, like his relationship with the women who pushed this because of real deaths, his parent's fights with cancer, etc. He had plenty of reasons to think that vaccinating pre-sexually-active girls with a vaccine meant for pre-sexxually-active girls to prevent the spread of a sexually transmitted disease which causes cancer deaths and other lifetime illness was a good thing that should be encouraged (like Alaska encourges it).
  3. he forced kids to get the vaccine against their parent's wishes -- a charge disproved by the very words of the EO that said the parents had the "final authority", and by the trivially easy opt-out process where you just get online, fill out a 30-second form, hit enter, and the state SENDS you a filled-out opt-out form for you to sign and turn it. Easier than almost any other interaction with government.

62 posted on 09/16/2011 11:32:11 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
t is meant to be given before you become sexually active

"Sexually active"? You meant and THEY aren't being accurate in that use of a term. Truth is, what is meant is "sexually promiscuous."

You and yours are sexually promiscuous?

64 posted on 09/16/2011 11:36:52 AM PDT by bvw
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To: CharlesWayneCT
he only approved it because he got money from Merck, or because a friend of his told him to do it -- there is no evidence for this claim,

"Only" is the weasel word in that. Mr. Perry has been indirectly rewarded before and since by Merck and affiliates. Influence. Influence is in a web of related indirect agreements and arrangements, many below the reporting radar. But enough have been above the radar to suggest the size of the iceberg beneath the reflective layer.

65 posted on 09/16/2011 11:40:51 AM PDT by bvw
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To: CharlesWayneCT
trivially easy opt-out process

Just like income tax returns could be described. Go to a website print out a few forms, fill them out, send them in.

Is "trivially easy" an honest description? Only of printing out the forms. NOT EASY AR ALL TO FILL OUT HONESTLY.

67 posted on 09/16/2011 11:44:20 AM PDT by bvw
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