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To: Cboldt
Well, given all that, is Perry pushing the legislature to enact mandatory HPV vaccination? I'm trying to disambiguate his "made a mistake" remark, and discover his view of the government role in public health.

My take on it is that he tried to do the right thing, as he saw it, got raked over the coals and then his politician CYA instincts took over and he back-pedalled as fast as he could.

I, myself, would have argued my point as far as I could possibly take it. However, I have never been elected, let alone reelected, to public office so that is very easy for me to say.

That is the problem with being a politician. You can be a 100% consistent politician or you can be a reelected politician but it is almost impossible to be a 100% consistent reelected politician.

Given the political climate, a mandate will not work until the issue is explained to the population.

It seems that the prevailing, though unstated, objection is that an HPV vaccine implies that my daughter is a shameless hussy.

The reality of the viral chain is that, no matter how virtuous my daughter is, that no-good, man that is NEVER going to be good enough for my daughter (I know that even though I haven't met him yet) can't be trusted as far as you can throw him so all the other shameless hussies he's sleeping with before he meets my daughter need to be vaccinated in order to protect MY daughter.

That message is going to take a while to get across. Sometimes, the easiest thing for a politician to do is say, "Forget it!"

Go back in history and look up how long it took for some communities in the 1950's and 1960's to be convinced that fluoride in the drinking water .... as well as the Polio vaccine .... were not a Communist plot to destroy America.


132 posted on 09/13/2011 7:24:40 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: Polybius
-- My take on it is that he tried to do the right thing, as he saw it, got raked over the coals and then his politician CYA instincts took over and he back-pedalled as fast as he could. --

He was opposed to reversal of his EO on "outcome" groiunds, that public health outcome justified a givernment mandate of the vaccine.

My question is whether or not he maintains that conviction, because he sure as heck isn't making his position clear, and one thing I value in a politician is making their position clear.

133 posted on 09/13/2011 7:32:04 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Polybius

I was a young adult in the 50’s and 60’s, and never did see the accusation that ‘The Unholy Three’ was being treated as a communist threat.

But fluoridating the drinking water supply was exposed not that long ago for being dangerous. People experiencing mottled and brown teeth. America has many fluoride sources, unfortunately, and we’re (not us) ingesting fluoride from a variety of them.

My question has always been “How many ounces of fluoridated water must a child of a certain age and weight, drink daily to thwart cavities???” And how do the parents see to this???!! That should end the debate right there!
I have never seen a recommended amount - have you???!
If one feels compelled to want fluoride for tooth protection, go have it directly applied.
Don’t force the rest of us to drink it from the public water supply. And wash cars, water lawns, subject birds to drinking from fluoridated water puddles, etc.!
A needless expense.

My dentist says the pro fluoridating-of-water- cavity studies were flawed. And he appeared before his city council with this information some years ago - before I was his patient.
I live in a different community, so was unaware of the city 25 miles away and its decision.
I believe they may have fluoridated anyway.
The suppliers of the source of fluoride (by-product of the aluminum industry) must be laughing their heads off every time they ‘sell’ a community.
(Excuse if I don’t use the correct form of ‘fluoride’).

As for polio currently, it is said the source of any polio these latter years is from the vaccine. Hate it when I see the local service club off again to some country distributing this vaccine.


144 posted on 09/13/2011 8:15:22 PM PDT by USARightSide
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