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To: EnglishCon
Fixing some very sloppy composition in my last post to you:
Almost all cervical cancer is associated with warts, yes, just as a few deadly and rare skin cancers nearly always initiate at skin warts elsewhere on the body.

If you get a wart does that mean you are dieing of cancer? NO! Because cancers rarely form from warts, most warts — caused by HPV — are benign.


2,134 posted on 09/13/2011 6:18:46 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

No worries. My own posts frequently suffer the same problem - and I should deservedly be hit upside the head hard for that “shitty parent” comment. Thank you for the relatively gentle smack instead of what I actually deserved!

You are right, of course, in that warts don’t mean automatic cancer. But, since most cases of cevical, and a large number of cases of vaginal cancer ARE caused by HPV, where is the problem in reducing the risk by using a vaccine? That is my thinking. We go to the beach, the kids get sunscreen applied. Just in case. They all get the MMR vaccine (as seperate doses - I still don’t trust the combined dose) as I am not risking their health down the line.
We, as one of the very very few things the UN actually was forced to do right by, I believe, the USA, even wiped out smallpox by vaccinating every last person on the planet. I actually remember the day it was announced as an extinct disease. Why not HPV?

Oh, the vaccine isn’t perfect, but it protects against (I think - it used to be 4 but has been uprated since I last looked) 10 of the strains of HPV that are definitely known to cause cancer.

My kids were, and grandkids are, taught abstinence. On some it worked - on my elder daughter, having given us 6 grandchildren and counting already, I don’t think that lesson took particularly well!
They were/are also taught - by me - what safe sex is and where the condoms, spermicide and barriers are kept since we don’t have the option of home schooling here and I well remember what it is like to be a randy teen and a father before 20!
I will do everything in my power to keep them safe from harm without raising them to be coddled wimps. Like you, I strongly dislike being told how to raise my kids, but if something comes up that helps them they get it, if I have to eat lettuce sandwiches for a month to pay for it.

Without the vaccine, the chances of my grandaughters developing cervical cancer is low but measurable. With the vaccine it is much, much lower. Worth it, in my book.

I think on this topic we’ll have to agree to disagree, since you won’t persuade me and I won’t persuade you. But thank you for the spirited discussion!


2,167 posted on 09/13/2011 8:36:42 AM PDT by EnglishCon
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