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Rick Perry fails to impress in GOP debate
washingtonpost ^ | 09/07/2011 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 09/07/2011 10:58:58 PM PDT by free me

Texas Gov. Rick Perry needed to show in tonight’s debate that he is presidential, substantive and ready for prime time. While he made no major gaffes, he certainly did not stand out in the crowd. He took hits on his views on Social Security and on mandatory HPV testing, and unsurprisingly did not have convincing comebacks. At times — on foreign policy and on global warming — he seemed to search for words. He will need to lose the frozen grin as well. His best moment came near the end of the debate when he gave a measured, tough-minded defense of Texas’s high rate of executions, explaining the circumstances under which you will pay “the ultimate penalty” in Texas.

Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum and Michele Bachmann turned in solid performances. Nevertheless, it was largely a Romney vs. Perry affair.

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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I tend to agree.

It was the night of the long knives.


21 posted on 09/07/2011 11:11:47 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: free me
Rick Perry fails to impress in GOP debate

He impressed Brian Williams, I thought the sissy was going to faint from the gut punch Rick gave him about Texas Justice.

22 posted on 09/07/2011 11:13:02 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: South40
; )

Huh? SS is either a Ponzi Scheme or it ain't. Not too much room for opinion. Just sayin.

23 posted on 09/07/2011 11:13:21 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: South40

Yes, it is. I think holding his own on his first national test, especially coming late to the debate from what had to be an exhausting few days dealing with the coordination of effort on the wildfires, was a good result.

I liked what he said, and know he could have said it better. He answered questions a lot better at the Tim Scott town hall — he had more time, was more relaxed, and looked less tired.

Given that the focus of the debate was “let’s trip up Rick Perry”, I think he did fine.

And as the frontrunner, he doesn’t really have to stand out, he just has to not fall over badly. And Romney’s teams declaration notwithstanding, I don’t think he had any real gaffes.

Heck, the biggest attack against him coming out of the debate appears to be whether or not he should have been so truthful about Social Security, with Romney, the liberals, and a few conservatives backing other candidates thinking he would have been better of lying and saying SS was fine and there was no risk to people of getting their checks.

So if that’s the worst they have, it was pretty good.


24 posted on 09/07/2011 11:14:16 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mylife

I never said he was lame, those are your words.


25 posted on 09/07/2011 11:14:16 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: free me
Texas Gov. Rick Perry needed to show in tonight’s debate that he is presidential, substantive and ready for prime time.

Too bad that Obozo wasn't held to this same standard in 2008!

26 posted on 09/07/2011 11:14:26 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: Chgogal

You said you thought it was memorable. That’s your opinion.


27 posted on 09/07/2011 11:15:34 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: Chgogal

I had the distinct feeling that’s why Newt was there tonight...with the blessing of all other candidates. He really is a smart man with a lot of his own innovative ideas. Just not the kind of leader we need.


28 posted on 09/07/2011 11:16:22 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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My 2¢:

Mitt performed the best; experience matters in these forums.

Perry reminded me of my early fears about him. I hope he learns quick, because I don’t want Mitt and Perry and Mitt are the only two that I think have a shot at beating Obama.


29 posted on 09/07/2011 11:16:41 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: smoothsailing
Perry doesn't back down. He is the Anti-Obama. He will NOT vote “Present” nor will he allow let Peloser/Ried write policy for him. ; )
30 posted on 09/07/2011 11:18:09 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: South40

You are so predictable. You can never have an honest discussion.


31 posted on 09/07/2011 11:18:12 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife
True, the rest of the field see Perry as their biggest threat, so they attacked him from all sides. Bachmann was her tightly scripted and mediocre self, giving robotic answers and she failed to speak from the heart. Gingrich was like that embarrassing uncle who shows up at the faimily reunion both loud and drunk.

Romney was his usual slick self, telling everyone what he thought they wanted to hear. Huntsman and all the rest were just wannabe’s gasping their last breath. Santorum included.

32 posted on 09/07/2011 11:18:33 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: South40
When was the last time you heard a Presidential Candidate, a Front Runner no less, call SS a Ponzi Scheme and NOT back down?

You must have a funny memory. ; )

33 posted on 09/07/2011 11:20:37 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: free me; SoldierDad

Texas Gov. Rick Perry needed to show in tonight’s debate that he is presidential, substantive and ready for prime time.”

Not perfect but considering that he had been dealing with the U.S.Forestry brigade roadblocks and horrendous fires for the last two days, I think he did quite well. Out of all of them I would suspect he is the only one who had accomplished anything during the last two days while the others rested up and prepped for the debate.


34 posted on 09/07/2011 11:21:38 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: free me

Perry stayed cool even when everyone was after him, but I felt that some of his answers could have been a bit more coherent. He’s ok.

Newt and Santorum are the most clear to me, but that probably has to do with the fact that they were legislators and are used to bloviation.

I still don’t have a candidate that I am completely excited about. But I’ll take any of them over Obama, even Huntsman.


35 posted on 09/07/2011 11:22:36 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: free me
Perrybots are every bit as delusional as the most rabid Palinbots. Each of the GOP candidates have major flaws their opponents will try to exploit.

Romney: RomneyCare and Flip-flops
Perry: immigration and favors given to key supporters
Gingrich: personal baggage
Bachmann: gaffes, lack of executive experience
Palin (if she enters): resignation

36 posted on 09/07/2011 11:22:38 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: CharlesWayneCT
We've had our share of fires here in San Diego both in 2003 and 2007 so I am well aware of the toll it can put on you, both mentally and physically. I give Perry credit for making it to the debate but I don't think that's why he had a less than spectacular showing. It was his first time on a national stage -- that's got to be difficult for any man.

While I don't agree with much of what Newt says, he is always a standout in these debates. The guy is knowledgeable, quick to respond and usually right on the mark.

I like Cain but with 8 candidates on the stage he struggled, as did others, to get face time; Perry certainly won in that regard.

In the end, I don't think this debate changed any minds.

37 posted on 09/07/2011 11:22:56 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: bwc2221

Why didn’t you list Paul’s flaws?


38 posted on 09/07/2011 11:25:39 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Chgogal

I think making SS a campaign issue is a mistake; should Perry get the nomination, Obummer and the DNC will exploit it to its fullest. So when have I heard a presidential candidate make that mistake? Never.


39 posted on 09/07/2011 11:26:02 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: bwc2221

I think Poster Jedidah covered the Perry Immigration thing very well.

Do a user search.

#1 Our border is a federal issue.
Dont blame Perry


40 posted on 09/07/2011 11:26:10 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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