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To: 10thAmendmentGuy; wagglebee
Yet you're only bashing me. My position on this is mainstream Republican.

By your own admission, then, you're a RINO.

Besides, that is not an answer to wagglebee's question. He asked you "So, you are now trying to claim that Orthodox Judaism supports your pro-abortion agenda? "

Why don't you answer the question asked instead of answering a question you made up that nobody asked?

33 posted on 09/01/2011 6:17:26 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, Satan says, "Oh crap. She's UP!")
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To: metmom; wagglebee; little jeremiah
Metmom, I expect more from you than that. I expect you to be able to honestly analyze posts, and to exercise good reading comprehension.

Now, wagglebee said this:

"So, you are now trying to claim that Orthodox Judaism supports your pro-abortion agenda?"

I never claimed this. I claimed that Orthodox Judaism endorses LIMITED circumstances in which abortion is acceptable. All Orthodox authorities I've read agree that it is acceptable to save the mother's life. Many Orthodox authorities agree that it is acceptable if the fetus is the product of rape, because carrying it to term could cause the mother severe emotional trauma.

If you actually bothered to read my posts where I quoted the Orthodox rabbi then you would understand that. He makes it quite clear that Orthodox Judaism places the fetus in high esteem, and that it may only be aborted in limited circumstances. One of those circumstances is to save the mother's life, and another is if the child is the product of rape.

HERE, again are the relevant quotes. Don't miss them this time, pretty please?

""In Jewish law, a baby attains becomes a full-fledged human being when the head emerges from the womb. Before then, the fetus is considered a partial life.

So is it permitted to destroy this partial life?

Generally, no. This is illustrated by a case in the Talmud whereby a building collapsed on Shabbat. The rescue crew does not know if anyone is trapped under the rubble or not. And even if someone is trapped, they may already be dead. Despite these doubts, we push aside the restrictions of Shabbat in order to dig out the rubble - on the chance that it may result in the prolonging of human life. Why? Because every part of human life - even a doubtful, partial human life - has infinite value.

This applies to a fetus as well.

What about danger to emotional health? There are certain circumstances where this, too, may be grounds for abortion. For example, if the mother became pregnant through rape, and the thought of bearing this child will cause her a nervous breakdown or severe emotional trauma."

If George W. Bush's position on this makes him a RINO, then yes, you can call me a RINO. Do you think he is a RINO? Be honest now. You're spending all your time bashing me, yet he's even more liberal on this issue than I am. I only support two abortion exceptions. He supports three.

Let me also note again, to anyone viewing, that the only reason I am even in this thread is because little jeremiah pinged me to it. You can't accuse me of TROLLING this thread if I only posted in it after being INVITED. YOU FAIL.

36 posted on 09/01/2011 6:26:38 PM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy ("[Drug] crusaders cannot accept the fact that they are not God." -Thomas Sowell)
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