Posted on 09/01/2011 4:08:38 PM PDT by wagglebee
Exactly, it is destroying society.
Killing innocent people does that.
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Fits with and into the liberalism paradigm and agenda of the continued dumbing down of the world’s populace..../s =.=
How do you run from your thoughts when you know you have taken a human life? No matter where you go there are reminders-—children playing, babies crying, women shopping for back-to-school items; playgrounds and strollers and soccer teams. There is no escape. Even though our laws say “yes,” every mother and father already knows that killing is wrong, whether they admit it or not.
No kidding.
Why are they finally willing to admit this? Is the cost to the government for treatment of a mental disorder higher than the cost of taking care of an extra child?
Can you imagine if you did a study that compared dentists to abortionists ~ well, maybe you don't want to imagine any of that, but the abortionists undoubtedly ENJOY THEIR WORK and probably don't jump off any scales normed to Eric Dahmer.
It's the truth. Nothing but the simple truth.
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Thought you weren’t going to ping me anymore? And I’ve never been in favor of a mental health exception for abortion. I’m in favor of a rape exception — although I agree that overlaps with mental health. What I’m not in favor of is women who are “depressed” because their boyfriend dumped them or because it’s rainy outside being able to get abortions because they were too stupid to use birth control. Got it? See the difference? The mental health exception is wide enough to drive a truck through. I won’t hold a woman accountable for having a child put in her against her will. I will hold all the others accountable, however.
No. The child will likely ...
1) grow up
2) pay taxes
3) raise 2.1 kids
... thus, the empirically and financially sound way, is life.
> I wont hold a woman accountable for having a child put in her against her will.
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You don’t believe in God, right?
Not your god. My religion (Judaism) teaches that abortion is acceptable in cases of rape. I'm entitled to it. Quoting Rabbi Simmons:
"In Jewish law, a baby attains becomes a full-fledged human being when the head emerges from the womb. Before then, the fetus is considered a partial life.
So is it permitted to destroy this partial life?
Generally, no. This is illustrated by a case in the Talmud whereby a building collapsed on Shabbat. The rescue crew does not know if anyone is trapped under the rubble or not. And even if someone is trapped, they may already be dead. Despite these doubts, we push aside the restrictions of Shabbat in order to dig out the rubble - on the chance that it may result in the prolonging of human life. Why? Because every part of human life - even a doubtful, partial human life - has infinite value.
This applies to a fetus as well.
However, there can be certain factors which may create an exception. For example, when partial life threatens a full life. The Talmud discusses a case where doctors say that if the mother continues with the pregnancy, she will die. In such a case, we kill the fetus in order to save the mother. Why? Because when the partial life of the fetus is weighed against the full life of the mother, we give precedence to saving the full life.
Our question now is where to draw the line? What constitutes a "threat to the mother?"
As a general guideline, if the fetus poses a real danger to the mother - i.e. the pregnancy will aggravate a heart condition or will cause the mother to go blind - then there is room for discussion.
What about danger to emotional health? There are certain circumstances where this, too, may be grounds for abortion. For example, if the mother became pregnant through rape, and the thought of bearing this child will cause her a nervous breakdown or severe emotional trauma."
>I wont hold a woman accountable for having a child put in her against her will.
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Why hold the child accountable?
"Western society has slipped far from this Torah value. Of the approximately 2 million abortions performed annually in the United States, about 75 percent are attributed to matters of convenience (i.e. having a baby would interfere with the mother's school or work), or to financial considerations (i.e. a baby is not affordable at this time).
In Judaism, these constitute unacceptable reasons for killing the "partial life" fetus. When one's parents become old and require costly medication, should we then kill them also for financial considerations?!
Or how about when a fetus is diagnosed as having birth defects? Some argue that abortion of a handicapped fetus spares the child a "poor quality of life." Yet who said that having one arm constitutes a poor quality of life?! Should the mother of Stephen Hawking (the world's leading astrophysicist who is near-fully paralyzed) have made a decision that his was a life not worth living? Every time someone loses a limb in an accident, should we kill them?!
Or how about mental retardation? If a set of highly intelligent parents are appalled to discover that their fetus has an IQ of "only" 100, is abortion justified?
Judaism says that this type of selection process is evil. It hearkens to the Nazi program called "T-4," which systematically set out to kill all physically and mentally disabled persons."
Ya think?
It wouldn’t have anything to do with the slaughter of their own child, now would it?
I said I won’t read your freepmails. I thought this might interest you since you favor abortion in the case of rape.
This explains a lot about feminists. Seriously.
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