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To: PhilipFreneau

“I suppose you were also against Kennedy negotiating with Khrushchev and Reagan negotiating with Gorbachev.”

Bogus comparison - a totally different psyche and mentality of Russians vs. fundamental Islamists. The idea of Mutually Assured Destruction was an effective deterrent with Russia - they didn’t want to die any more than we did.

NOT TRUE in Islam - Muhammad in the Koran declared that the only sure path to paradise is to kill, or be killed, in the name of Allah. Bin Laden stated fact when he said “we love death the way you in the West love life”. A large number of crazy Muslims, like Ahmedinejad, are Twelvers (the largest branch of Shiite Islam) - meaning they believe they can hasten the return of the Twelfth Imam, or Mahdi, by bathing the world in blood through widespread death and destruction, then establishing a global Caliphate.

Ahmedinejad begins every UN speech (and others) with a prayer to hasten the return of the Mahdi and he’s said many times he believes it’s his personal, sacred mission to bring that about. Radical Islamic leaders such as Ahmedinejad canNOT be reasoned with. Mutually Assured Destruction - ha! He and those like him welcome it.

Muhammad commands all the “faithful” to deal with Infidels (all non-Muslims) by 1) Inviting them to convert; 2) Asking them one more time; then 3) Subjugating (enslaving) or killing all who refuse to convert, with the dedicated mission of Islam reigning supreme over the earth.

What we do or don’t do makes no difference in their intent to kill us. They only respect might and strength, and they laugh at our weakness in retreating, our cripplin political correctness, and our attempts to negotiate with them, showing our lack of understanding in judging them by our own values. They loved BHO’s election (though they mock him) and they absolutely salivate over Ron Paul running.

RP doesn’t have a clue about the enemy we’re facing today. He doesn’t understand Islamic mentality, Sharia Law creeping into our communities, or the Stealth Jihad being waged on us right here at home as long as government looks the other way. Most dangerous of all, he doesn’t care to learn about it - obviously.


135 posted on 08/29/2011 11:54:04 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: llandres

>>>Bogus comparison - a totally different psyche and mentality of Russians vs. fundamental Islamists. The idea of Mutually Assured Destruction was an effective deterrent with Russia - they didn’t want to die any more than we did.
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Of course. But I don’t think it is a bogus comparison. Negotiation doesn’t mean surrender, and from what I have gathered from Ron Paul, he is no dove. He is on record many times stating [paraphrasing]:

“We don’t need to help Israel. They are a rich nation and they have hundreds of Nukes. They can defend themselves.”

Have you heard any candidate or President since the founding of Israel say that? No. They all want(ed) Israel to negotiate with the terrorists, more or less. Worse, some want(ed) Israel to give up land they need(ed) for self-defense, of even create a Palestine state (e.g., G.W. Bush and others).

Regarding Islam, I have read the Koran several times, and I know the latter (violent) verses supercede the former (peaceful) verses. My bible is the same, except reversed, e.g., the peaceful verses are at the end, rather than the beginning.

However, there is one thing you haven’t considered (I believe). If I consider Ron Paul’s stance on Israel (e.g., They have hundreds of nukes. They can defend themselves.), and his notion that a few Trident subs can defend America, then I have to concluded (althought he will not say it, not just yet) that he is willing to use the nukes to defend us. His own version of M.A.D.. In the case of the Muslims, all he has to say during negotiations is this:

“We are going to send our troops home. But if you mess with us again, we are going to destroy your country, we are going to destroy Mecca and Medina, and we are going to destroy that monstrosity on the Temple Mount. Then we are going to spray the entire area with pigs blood. After that, we will bulldose every mosque in America, and deport every muslim. Then if you mess with us, I will really get mad!

I really do think Ron Paul has it in him. Mostly because of his stance on Israel, but not all.


142 posted on 08/30/2011 12:31:41 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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