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To: driftdiver
I didn't compare them to Madison, and you know it. I provided historical examples of the protection of American citizens abroad in response to your question. The truth of the matter is, you are all too happy to have two of your fellow citizens imprisoned and brutalized for five years on phony espionage charges in a criminal regime because you don't agree with the views they hold according to their First Amendment rights. That's sad.

"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself."
- Thomas Paine

"Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves."
- Abraham Lincoln

179 posted on 08/22/2011 9:10:27 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: americanophile
The truth of the matter is, you are all too happy to have two of your fellow citizens imprisoned and brutalized for five years on phony espionage charges in a criminal regime because you don't agree with the views they hold according to their First Amendment rights.

Whatever you think of the criminal regime, it has the right and power to police its borders by its own lights. The hikers disrespected that power and now they're paying. And we're supposed to get all jingo-y about these morons?

183 posted on 08/22/2011 4:57:27 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: americanophile
I didn't compare them to Madison, and you know it. I provided historical examples of the protection of American citizens abroad in response to your question

That is incorrect, you're use of the people you did was intentional and was nonsense.

The truth of the matter is, you are all too happy to have two of your fellow citizens imprisoned and brutalized for five years on phony espionage charges in a criminal regime because you don't agree with the views they hold according to their First Amendment rights. That's sad.

Actually I am entirely ambivalent about it. They aren't fellow citizens, its well known they are communists and hate the America I love. They seek to "change" our system. They further compounded their beliefs by going where they did. I have no idea if they were spying or what.

All your fancy quotes doesn't change your pure hypocritical nonsense.

184 posted on 08/22/2011 5:17:37 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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