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To: muawiyah

A very good friend of mine was born in Chihuahua, Mexico, and is a naturalized U.S.citizen. We served together in the Navy. Another friend’s ancestor came to California with the first RC Bishop back in the 18th century. They are no more likely to vote alike than any other American ethnic group.

There is no megalithic block of Hispanic voters, I know that. It isn’t the U.S. citizens of Hispanic ancestry that I worry about; it is voter fraud by illegal aliens perpetrated by Democratic Party operatives in blue states.

Law and order issues combined with jobs, jobs, jobs, is where I hope to see the next election arguments predominate.


45 posted on 08/18/2011 7:32:09 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll
Before the Death of Philippe I/2 of Spain (succeeded by his son Philippe2/3 of spain) in 1598 North America was being slowly organized and developed by Spaniards and anyone else who was willing to do that kind of work ~ mostly surveying, looking for gold, working mines, building/marking a few serious seasonal wagon roads, and building corn mills (also handy for busting rock in the search for gold AND creating materials useful in making alcohol, the currency of the continent) ~ rarer than gold and worth more.

By 1604 Philippe 2/3 had pretty much forced the Treaty of London on everybody and development in North America took a new course. The French came in, the Brits did, the Dutch (but only as protected by the English from the Spanish), the Danes, the Swedes and many others ~ one way or the other.

So, what happened to all those Spaniards who were wandering about? Did they just leave?

No, they didn't leave. Some officials did. You find grandees from "Florida" showing up in New Mexico of course, but you also find the same surveyors surveying, gold miners mining, distillers distilling, fur traders trading and everything else.

What I'm finding in detail searches for 1500s ancestors to this great land is that virtually NO ONE went back to Europe. They came here. Did their stuff mostly without supervision; dined very well on meat every day; and eventually died only to be buried under unusual rocks posted over their graves ~ just about anywhere anyone would care to bury them too.

Up until the 1800s there were few restrictions on Hispanics from the Americas moving into North America, nor were there any qualms about the Cubans or Spaniards from Spain themselves. The Portuguese were as welcome as anybody.

The concern with Hispanics begins with the Great Depression. At the same time the original quite plentiful supply seem to have simply blended into the landscape.

52 posted on 08/18/2011 7:48:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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