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To: Norm Lenhart
He was a KNOWN eco nut LONG before the late 80s.

But you just said he was an eco nut way before anybody even knew his name.

We lived in the 1980s. Al Gore was not the face of global warming in the 1980s. It was just another of his bad positions on issues. It wasn't even his signature issue, just one of many things he did.

I don't know what you mean about debating honestly with me, I'm using the facts that you provide to show that Rick Perry was not lying, and you don't like that, but you have yet to show a single piece of evidence that Al Gore was ever referred to by anything like the name "Mr. Global Warming" before the 1988 elections.

The fact that Al Gore wrote a book MUCH LATER in which he mentions how much he was an eco-nut in the 1980s is hardly evidence that everybody knew it then. We didn't have his book in the 1980s.

But I guess this is what we have to attack Perry for -- the minutae of what Al Gore said about global warming over 2 decades ago. Because that is what is really important in this election.

Yesterday there was a flame war in another thread because someone had the temerity to post something Sarah Palin said all the way back in 2008, when she was McCain's VP. We were told that was out-of-bounds, because it was so long ago, and she had said different things later and people who are supporting a candidate as their VP have to say things they don't believe.

Now it seems the same people are saying that Al Gore's position on Global Warming in the 1980s is critically important in judging Rick Perry, regardless of anything he has said at any time since 1988, even though 1988 is 20 years earlier than 2008.

I suppose if we had actual quotes of things Sarah Palin said in 1988, I would be arguing that they weren't very important relative to what she is saying today (we probably do have "quotes" from her from 1988, I believe she was a sports broadcaster at the time, and they probably have her shows taped somewhere.

(Lest anybody claim I'm making false inferences, Palin has always been a republican, as she registered in 1982).

197 posted on 08/15/2011 11:13:05 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Norm Lenhart
Now it seems the same people are saying that Al Gore's position on Global Warming in the 1980s is critically important in judging Rick Perry, regardless of anything he has said at any time since 1988, even though 1988 is 20 years earlier than 2008.

Charles you are focusing in too close.

This isn't about Global Warming but Rick's lying about himself that Gore wasn't that bad of liberal back then because he wasn't into Global Warming at the time.

It is a false statement because Rick tries to make the false case that Al wasn't into Global Warming at the time, which really wasn't an issue at the time, Somehow makes Gore less liberal.

It is a classic Straw-Man argument and Perry knew Gore was a liberal, a very Left-Wing liberal.

A 9% ACU rating does not lie.

Quit helping Perry lie on this issue Charles.
198 posted on 08/15/2011 11:17:32 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: CharlesWayneCT

He was a KNOWN eco nut LONG before the late 80s.

“But you just said he was an eco nut way before anybody even knew his name.”

Which shows that such information was available once people did...say late 80s...say Rick Perry. and PLEASE do not even try to claim a person running for that high an office is a blank slate over his environmental stances.

You haven’t the slightest grasp of logic, reason, cause and effect or the most basic rules of debate. Do you care what you look like or are you just a paid shill that repeats talking points despite evidence to the contrary?


199 posted on 08/15/2011 11:19:32 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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