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Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law
Reuters ^ | 8/12/11 | Reuters

Posted on 08/12/2011 10:43:58 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa

An appeals court ruled on Friday that President Barack Obama's healthcare law requiring Americans to buy healthcare insurance or face a penalty was unconstitutional, a blow to the White House. The Appeals Court for the 11th Circuit, based in Atlanta, found that Congress exceeded its authority by requiring Americans to buy coverage, but also ruled that the rest of the wide-ranging law could remain in effect. The legality of the so-called individual mandate, a cornerstone of the healthcare law, is widely expected to be decided by the U.S. Supreme Court. The Obama administration has defended the provision as constitutional.

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To: Keith in Iowa
What was the makeup of this court? Was this the one stacked with Obama and Clinton Appointees or was that the 4th circuit.
61 posted on 08/12/2011 11:23:52 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Keith in Iowa

While everyone here should celebrate, and this is indeed good news, keep this in mind:

Obama and his bots intend for this health care legislation to fail.

He has stated before, (I’ve even heard the speech several times) that he is in favor of single-payer health care for all and nothing less will be his goal.

The legislation that was passed, now commonly referred to as “Obamacare,” was intended to be a giant clusterf*ck.

That was the plan. Create a creeping govt takeover that is bound to be atrocious. When the system becomes really bad, the govt can step in with an “I told you private involvement will harm the US healthcare system.”

Suddenly we find ourselves with a government run plan.

I wouldn’t celebrate until after the looney left is out in 2012.


62 posted on 08/12/2011 11:25:37 AM PDT by Rammer
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To: GilGil; Perdogg

The usage of a severability clause in writing legislation is merely something Congress does for their own purposes and to hem in their internal opposition if a law has to be fixed after court action.

A court is not bound by that in making their ruling and in this past century has held that the body of the legislation can stand if there is a part that is unconstitutional. They take the postition that Congress makes the laws and congress can fix those items struck down.


63 posted on 08/12/2011 11:25:37 AM PDT by KC Burke
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To: stevenl77

No, the original lawsuit was in Florida brought by 26 states.
Judge Vinson, Florida, declared the law unconsitutional in January and more impotantly:
“Because the individual mandate is unconstitutional and not severable, the entire Act must be declared void.”

The Obama admin decided to ignore the ruling.

The litigants (I believe) were set to bring a contempt of court case against the Obama admin, but Judge Vinson gave them a stay as long as the appeal occurred “quickly”

I am suprised at the severability ruling in the appeals court, but have not had time to read it yet, so I am not so sure.


64 posted on 08/12/2011 11:26:16 AM PDT by schwingdoc
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To: All

http://www.myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsreleases/F126903192481A4E852578EA0062BCE8

August 12, 2011
Media Contact: Jenn Meale
Phone: (850) 245-0150

Attorney General Pam Bondi Declares Victory in Court’s Ruling that the Federal Health Care Mandate is Unconstitutional

TALLAHASSEE, Fla.–Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi today declared victory in the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals’ ruling that forcing Americans to purchase health insurance is unconstitutional.

“Today we have prevailed in preventing Congress from infringing on the individual liberty protected by the U.S. Constitution. The ruling by the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals upholds our position that the federal health care law exceeds Congress’ power,” stated Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi.


65 posted on 08/12/2011 11:28:15 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("Kick The Communists Out Of Your Govt. And Don't Accept Their Goodies"-Yuri Bezmenov-KGB Defector)
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To: Keith in Iowa

“An appeals court ruled on Friday that President Barack Obama’s healthcare law requiring Americans to buy healthcare insurance or face a penalty was unconstitutional, a blow to the White House.”

Obama is Un-Constitutional...makes everything he has signed into law Un-Constitutional.


66 posted on 08/12/2011 11:28:21 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: Keith in Iowa

“An appeals court ruled on Friday that President Barack Obama’s healthcare law requiring Americans to buy healthcare insurance or face a penalty was unconstitutional, a blow to the White House.”

Obama is Un-Constitutional...makes everything he has signed into law Un-Constitutional.


67 posted on 08/12/2011 11:28:38 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: Keith in Iowa

http://youtu.be/fpAyan1fXCE

http://youtu.be/p-bY92mcOdk

“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House.”


68 posted on 08/12/2011 11:29:48 AM PDT by Rammer
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

There...some things need to be said twice to be heard loud and clear! :)


69 posted on 08/12/2011 11:30:25 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: Rammer

I agree.
However the mode of the bill was to poison the profitability of private healthcare.
I can go into detail as to how this is to occur, but leave it to be that the war is a financial one, and if successful (even if its repealed, much of the private healthcare industry is starting to crumble due to the last 15+ years of gov involvement as a payer) and the federal gov will be left with a decision on whether or not to “bail out” the private healthcare industry.

A capitalization program that would require more ink than the pacific ocean and would make all previous bail out and recapitalization plans look like pocket change.

If national bankruptcy was a concept, it will be a cold hard reality when trying to recapitalize healthcare.


70 posted on 08/12/2011 11:31:23 AM PDT by schwingdoc
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Thanks very much longnamedfeather : )


71 posted on 08/12/2011 11:32:23 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Liz; indylindy; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3

PING PONG!


72 posted on 08/12/2011 11:33:59 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Keith in Iowa; Admin Moderator
Duplicate thread - believe this one was first.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2762798/posts

73 posted on 08/12/2011 11:34:29 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

By 10 seconds...

And now suddenly the ModSquad is going to care about dupes?? :)


74 posted on 08/12/2011 11:38:25 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: P-Marlowe

Possibly..another thought is that if they tossed the whole law out, because of no severability clause..the administration would ahve asked for an immediate stay...that decision woudl be viewd as political..and the courts liekt o lay low if possible..maybe this is the 11th Circuit’s CoA telling the Supremes to get up off theis asse and take the case NOW


75 posted on 08/12/2011 11:39:13 AM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO! But he should WALK 3 miles every day..)
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To: schwingdoc

The reuters article states that the 6th circuit court of appeals had already found the mandate constitutional. I take it the 6th circuit ruling applies to whatever states joined this suit, and the 11th circuit ruling applies to 26 states who joined this one?

There are times when a appeals court ruling only applies to the states within its jurisdiction, i.e. Alabama, Georgia, Florida. I’m just trying to understand.


76 posted on 08/12/2011 11:41:31 AM PDT by stevenl77
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To: RightFighter

“Obama would PREFER that the mandate be struck down. He can’t say that, but if he can get the mandate struck down with the rest of the law intact, then he knows that will completely destroy the private healthcare market in this country. Then there will be no alternative but for single-payer.”

Yeah, that sounds about right me thinks, and is typical of the sly skullduggery one should always expect, and watch out for from Leftist mindset.

I still don’t think I’ve ever seen anything in the Constitution that would support such legislation though. One would have to stretch “for the the good of...” waaaaay beyond reason. I believe even more than Commerce Clause.

Gotta yank those reins, and turn this pony about.


77 posted on 08/12/2011 11:43:38 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Uncledave

You think not? If every private insurer went belly up overnight, you don’t think that even a GOP House would feel compelled to do something to get coverage for people? It would be a complete disaster. That’s why I can’t understand why Boehner was trying to get the mandate thrown out as part of the debt ceiling negotiations. What was the point? The truth is that the mandate is pretty much an absolute requirement in order for the law as a whole to be valid in any way.


78 posted on 08/12/2011 11:45:22 AM PDT by RightFighter (Now back to my war station.)
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