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1 posted on 07/30/2011 8:21:38 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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This deal is garbage. The cuts will be forgotten next time a budget is passed, it’s a joke, a freakin joke - Boehner is an epic fail - he probably just held that vote yesterday so he could go and be petted on the head by Obama. The deadline is only so he can gloat on his birthday video that he’s broadcasting to people.

Cowards and idiots in the Republican leadership!


330 posted on 07/30/2011 11:00:37 PM PDT by KentuckianaHeadhunter
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Gee, I am so surprised!


340 posted on 07/30/2011 11:09:48 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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Let me get this straight, and I'll use household budgets, income and expenses. I earn $20,000 per year, but my expenses are $30,000 per year. I have maxed out me credit union, bank line of credit, credit cards and have leveraged the crap out of the equity in my house. Over the next ten years, I am therefore projecting a deficit of $100,000

I go to the bank and ask for them to loan me some money, because I am spending $10,000 per year more than I bring in. They say: "Are you kidding me, we'll never get paid back. You are in a permanent state of deficit spending."

So, I cut a deal with them. I tell them if they lend me two years worth of deficit spending ($20,000), I promise them that I will reduce my ten year projected deficit by the same $20,000. In other words, lend me $20,000 today, and I promise to only run up $80,000 more debt over the next ten years.

Our national media needs to be shot for not explaining the idiocy of this debate. Our politians, if they pass this, should also be eliminated.

350 posted on 07/30/2011 11:24:09 PM PDT by Go Gordon (One Big Ass Mistake America)
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I don’t know why they don’t increase the % of salaries that can have social security deducted up from the 90% level of about $108,000. I’ll bet a lot of those Wall Street guys who were making salaries with commissions of $600,000 a year in the housing bubble days wish that they had that money socked away in their SS fund now that they are unemployed.


365 posted on 07/30/2011 11:38:08 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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according to the link we got screwed again.


398 posted on 07/31/2011 12:55:30 AM PDT by SUSSA
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This debt ceiling thing must be important, as MSNBC has actually had some staffing and live programs over the weekend. Even during the Iraq invasion they only had Lester Holt and a box of no-doze for weekends.
417 posted on 07/31/2011 5:04:28 AM PDT by Shqipo (I am the unofficial originator of the Mega-Bump! Only use judiciously.)
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Due to the low amount of spending cuts, the only good thing to come out of this will be the BBA vote but even that is meaningless because the Senate will never pass it.

Basically Obama got his way, we got the shaft without even the courtesy of a reach around.


437 posted on 07/31/2011 7:10:53 AM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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Whether or not this is a bona fide column, I think there is a lot of truth in it.

Charley Reese’s Final column!

A very interesting column.. COMPLETELY NEUTRAL. Be sure to Read the Poem at the end.

Charley Reese’s final column for the Orlando Sentinel...
He has been a journalist for 49 years.
He is retiring and this is HIS LAST COLUMN.

Be sure to read the Tax List at the end.

This is about as clear and easy to understand as it can be. The article below is completely neutral, neither anti-republican or democrat. Charlie Reese, a retired reporter for the Orlando Sentinel, has hit the nail directly on the head, defining clearly who it is that in the final analysis must assume responsibility for the judgments made that impact each one of us every day. It’s a short but good read. Worth the time. Worth remembering!

545 vs. 300,000,000 People
-By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The President does.

You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don’t write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don’t control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? John Boehner. He is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted — by present facts — of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can’t think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red.

If the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it’s because they want them in Iraq and Afghanistan ...

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it’s because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like “the economy,” “inflation,” or “politics” that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees...

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!


Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

What you do with this article now that you have read it... is up to you.
This might be funny if it weren’t so true.
Be sure to read all the way to the end:

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table,
At which he’s fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for
peanuts anyway!

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.

Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won’t be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He’s good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he’s laid...

Put these words
Upon his tomb,
‘Taxes drove me
to my doom...’

When he’s gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge Tax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Sales Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What in the heck happened? Can you spell ‘politicians?’

I hope this goes around THE USA at least 545 times!!! YOU can help it get there!!!

GO AHEAD. . . BE AN AMERICAN!!!


441 posted on 07/31/2011 7:45:38 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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Reps are so stupid to agree to this but we already knew that. McConnell, Boehner, they all need to go.


452 posted on 07/31/2011 8:44:36 AM PDT by Diggity
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After reading the tentative deal, my biggest complaint is the cuts take place over 10 years, rather than over the time of the debt increase (2 years). My second biggest complaint is there is no mention of freezing federal wages and hiring. My third biggest complaint is Obamacare isn’t gutted.

But I would go crazy if I were in the legislature. Executive branch is the only place I could stomach the politics.


456 posted on 07/31/2011 9:24:12 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Seek you first the kingdom of God, and all things will be given to you.)
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The Key hear is the BBA .... I don’t think any politician would be able to stand forward and vote no on it, because of the amount of debt and the absolute danger of this debt. I am so happy that the Republicans got dragged kicking and screaming by the tea party but in the end if this BBA gets a chance it will pretty much change everything going forward.

The BBA is a vote to end socialism in America.


469 posted on 07/31/2011 3:01:38 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Ask a liberal to explain how tax increases create jobs in America)
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Both the left and right are screeching “betrayal, sellout!” What a shock.


470 posted on 07/31/2011 4:30:58 PM PDT by chessplayer
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