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To: ngat

They very actively tried to undermine LBJ. The Kennedy faction demanded from him that he keep JFKs entire cabinet, and thus agenda.

“The Great Society” were not LBJs ideas, though he was tasked with “arm twisting” them through congress, mostly against his fellow southerners, who remained in congress despite being stripped of power in the party apparatus.

Most of the war effort was handled by “Robert McNamara’s band”, who worked with direct management of the war by congressmen and senators. McNamara’s philosophy was that the war could be run like a business.

As you look at the timetable of the changeover from the old school to radical leadership, you can see almost to the day when the radicals turned, as a group, against the war. Generally solely for political reasons. Oddly enough, though Humphrey was too left wing for the southerners, he was far too right wing for the radicals, who only found their candidate in 1972 with George McGovern.

So though the southerners split right, first, the radicals were itching to drag the party left.

It all goes to who went against the war, and when.


41 posted on 07/30/2011 3:20:08 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Sure the Kennedys wanted back in bad enough to undermine him, nobody would argue that but your take on LBJ and his presidency and who he was is your own fantasy. You have LBJ so wrong it’s crazy, and pretty much the rest of it is off base too.


43 posted on 07/30/2011 3:53:22 PM PDT by ngat
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I have never thought of the man known as “the most effective Senate majority leader in history”, and who had won the Presidency with 61% of the vote, as a passive, mousy man who was no match for the young punks of the dead Kennedy administration.


51 posted on 07/30/2011 4:19:09 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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